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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2008 5:59:16 GMT -5
I started looking into 40K and Imperial Guard last year, but due to some personal matters it all stopped before I got to buy any models. Now, however, I have some spare time and I was thinking of starting to collect some IG miniatures. I am still wondering about which miniatures to use. The Cadians are the easy way out. The models are easy to buy in the store, and there is models for everything without much need for conversions. However, the models are a bit boring, and everyone playing IG around here uses them. I want something different and although I am not much of a painter or sculpturer I want a army that not looks like everyone elses.
The other opportunities I have looked into so far is the Tallarn and Death Korps. GW has some Tallarn models, and the Forge World Tallarn rough riders are striking. However, I am afraid they may look a bit "cartoonish" if the painting is not right.
The Forge World Death Korps range is fantastic, but it is very expencive, and I have never used any resin models. I`ve heard they are a bit fragile, but are there any other special considerations to make when prepearing them and paint them?
So, my questions to you guys are, what do you think of the Tallarn and Death Korps range? Should I not worry about resin models, only the price of it? And are there any other model range out there that could work for an IG army, preferable something like the WWI WWII look captured by the Death Korps?
Ashford
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Post by Commissar on Mar 25, 2008 7:05:20 GMT -5
Well, I think everybody uses the Cadians lol. They are real easy to work with, very easy to change; if you want a WW1, WW2 look, try taking stuff from the fantasy range and mixing it with the cadian models. They are very versatile. Play around with them. FW is expensive, so unless you have money to get loads of DK Im not sure if you'd wanna.
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Post by Removed on Mar 25, 2008 10:42:56 GMT -5
Check out my page im doing a British WW1 army.
It actually looks rather Forgeworldy...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2008 23:49:36 GMT -5
Unless you have a burning hatred for money - I wouldn't suggest getting into a Death Korps army. The models are pretty nice, but too expensive.
Tallarn is another possibility, however you would need to do al ot of ebaying to secure enough of them for an army, as they are no longer sold by GW. However - this route would still be more expensive than going Cadian.
As was suggested by other posters, I think the best option is converting Cadian models. Everyone does use them, but if painted and converted well - they can look pretty good. And they are much cheaper
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2008 3:02:55 GMT -5
I belived GW still sold the metall Tallarn troops in boxes of ten. Says so on their online store page, but that may be wrong? Another option may be to use the Haradrim range from LotR games as a base, and combine them with some Cadian stuff and bits from the ForgeWorld Tallarn range. What do you think?
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Mar 26, 2008 5:07:10 GMT -5
If you want to try and build your own tallarns you could simply use cadians. And greenstuff. A LOT of greenstuff.
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Post by fatuous on Mar 26, 2008 12:12:15 GMT -5
LOTR models are not the same size as 40k so they won't look right at all.
I love the Tallern models, but don't think there are really enough variety to make a whole army from, altho the idea of using a mix of catachan and cadian parts with large amounts of GS would work well if you have the time, patience and finance to do it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2008 22:36:48 GMT -5
I'm making an army that's a mix of Cadian, Catachan, and hopefully some Vostroyans.
A regiment made out of remnants regurgitated from the warp. Shooty line of Cadians, Hardened Catachan Vets, Vostroyan Cavalry/Mechanized.
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Mar 27, 2008 15:37:55 GMT -5
I belived GW still sold the metall Tallarn troops in boxes of ten. Says so on their online store page, but that may be wrong? Another option may be to use the Haradrim range from LotR games as a base, and combine them with some Cadian stuff and bits from the ForgeWorld Tallarn range. What do you think? I would seriously express some caution and warnings about combining LotR and IG models. the LotR horses are alot smaller than the fantasy or 40k roughrider horses which likely means the models in general are gonna be on a smaller scale for LotR. I've seen a rather nice conversion of a guardsman using some fantasy High Elf bits here on the forums, but even at that, the elves are slighter than humans and you could tell that some of the proportions were off in how the bits went together to make the models. if you're going to convert your guardsmen, I recommend sticking with fantasy and 40k humans, be they chaos or "loyalist." that way you know you're getting a uniform scale of bodypart to work with. now, acknowledging that you said you weren't much for sculpting and modelling, I would recommend the GW Valhallen line as something you might consider. they're a winter feeling army with greatcoats. alternatively, you could go with steel legion minis which are really sweet too - they're the first time that GW went with IG heavy weapons that WEREN'T on those geeky wheeled carriages. nowadays, the bipod/tripod heavy weapon is the standard - all because of the success of the steel legion line. steel legion is really the common man's DKoK army. they've got the gas masks and the trench coats as well as some really nice looking heavy weapon crews. ofcourse there's always the vostroyans too - when was the last time you've seen a vostroyan army? I know one guy who has a vostroyan army and that's it. I think of all the armies posted here on the board, there's only been 1 vostroyan army posted too - by Vash (very very nicely done army if you want to go searching for the thread).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2008 18:02:31 GMT -5
Problem with Vostroyans is that GW hasn't really committed to selling the en masse. You've got one box set, a laughably labeled "Regiment" of ten men. TEN! And for the same price as 20 Cadians!
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Mar 29, 2008 13:40:22 GMT -5
still, you gotta give it to GW that they put out a random extra IG infantry line. I mean hey, that's reallyreally cool of them in my book.
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Post by ssgtdude (M.I.A) on Mar 31, 2008 22:57:01 GMT -5
Two things about GW they love their Marines and while that is all fine and dandy where each chapter is just a different color it doesn't necessarily fit for guard. They also love their Cadians and believe that all guards should look the same with slight variances in uniform color.
While a generic model looks good for marines (As stated paint them a different color) NOt all guard units will have the same uniform or make up.
Imagine my problem where my entire force is made up of women. I run a tournament legal army using only GW models and had to convert everyone of them with the exception of the Tanith Ghost woman, Warrior woman, Female Commissars, Grenade Launcher girl, and Missile Launcher girl, not to mention the sister Allies). Everything else is taken from GW lines and GS the crap out of them. (promise better pics soon).
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