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Post by rpython on Apr 29, 2014 16:25:24 GMT -5
Hey, im facing 1000 points of csm and was just wondering what to expect him to field?
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Post by yvain on Apr 29, 2014 17:33:09 GMT -5
Its hard to say without knowing more about your opponent. (IE is he a khorne guy, does he use allies, etc etc) Are you asking what is the most dangerous stuff?
Plague Marines and Heldrakes are two popular choices. Both are difficult to deal with. Make sure you have a Vendetta or a Quad Gun. He won't have much ignore cover so a defense line is probably a good idea (just helldrake I think). A lot of people use Spawn which are not very durable, but if they are allowed to get in close they will eat all your troops.
His big weakness is the lack of good transports. He will need rhinos to move. So let him come to you. Autocannons are a must. If he is using Huron, he can infiltrate a lot of guys negating this. Havoks are annoying as they are like devastators. Most of his vehicles are not a big deal as they are easy to take out at range with our guns.
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Post by rpython on Apr 30, 2014 0:54:12 GMT -5
I don't kbowy either.
I don't have a vendetta or quad gun. Will a leman russ punisher work for anti air?
I also will have a MBT Russ.
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Post by Julian Sharps on Apr 30, 2014 1:19:06 GMT -5
Punishers are terrible tanks unless you put Pask in the turret. If you want reliable anti-air, I suggest you take some missile launcher squads and give them flakk missiles. Other than that, I would advise you take multiple Russ MBTs, as Battle Cannons are amazing for making Space Marines of any flavor go away.
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Post by rpython on Apr 30, 2014 1:52:20 GMT -5
I have orders another MBT Russ so could take that rather than the punisher ?
I am going to get pask for that reason.
I don't have any missile launchers or heavy weapons. Only a plastma cannon and lots of meltas.
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Post by rpython on Apr 30, 2014 3:17:52 GMT -5
Its hard to say without knowing more about your opponent. (IE is he a khorne guy, does he use allies, etc etc) Are you asking what is the most dangerous stuff? Plague Marines and Heldrakes are two popular choices. Both are difficult to deal with. Make sure you have a Vendetta or a Quad Gun. He won't have much ignore cover so a defense line is probably a good idea (just helldrake I think). A lot of people use Spawn which are not very durable, but if they are allowed to get in close they will eat all your troops. His big weakness is the lack of good transports. He will need rhinos to move. So let him come to you. Autocannons are a must. If he is using Huron, he can infiltrate a lot of guys negating this. Havoks are annoying as they are like devastators. Most of his vehicles are not a big deal as they are easy to take out at range with our guns. I have now manged to get one autocannon. |
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Post by yvain on Apr 30, 2014 10:48:03 GMT -5
Well what is your current planned list? What do you have to work with?
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Post by rpython on Apr 30, 2014 11:11:31 GMT -5
Was going to use
CCS with banner autocannon and chimera
1 x 10 guard with 3 melts
1x 10 guard with grenade launchers
PCS with flamers
And two leman russ MBT or one and a punisher
5 x stormtroopers 1 with melta
6 x vets with 2 flamers and a grenade launcher
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Post by yvain on Apr 30, 2014 13:28:59 GMT -5
Right now with what you have fill those vets out with some special weapons and carapace and give them the chimera. You need something that can move up the board and do damage. They can hide right behind the tanks with melta guns and annhilate anything big. Your banner is kind of a waste and it would be helpful to get some more AC into the Infantry squads for more long range power. The punisher isn't so great verse chaos since they have a lot of high armor saves. Without pask or psy powers they lose effectiveness. Though he could be pretty effective if chaos brings a daemon prince.
Without any anti-air you are just going to have to take a shot in the chin for now.
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Post by rpython on Apr 30, 2014 13:41:13 GMT -5
Okay I will do that. Well I can bring both and depending on what he brings switch the punisher for a standard tank. I will make the changes you suggested where I can.
I have a baneblade but that's a bit over kill for the points
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Post by rpython on Apr 30, 2014 15:23:18 GMT -5
I could drop the stormtroopers for a third leman russ.
Would that be advised?
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