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Post by cheminhaler on Jul 4, 2015 10:29:11 GMT -5
The teaser video for the new warhammer fantasy.
The models look really similar to Sanguinary Guard VS Khorne Beserkers. I can't believe the Sigmarites will be getting fantasy power armour.
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Post by emptyhat on Jul 4, 2015 13:18:57 GMT -5
I can't believe four pages of rules will be enough.
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Post by treadiculous on Jul 4, 2015 13:31:30 GMT -5
agree that it looks like they made fantasy look 40k.
with that said the Khorne models do look cool.
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Post by cheminhaler on Jul 4, 2015 13:59:29 GMT -5
Yeah, it looks like a pure cross-over.
Skinks with blowpipes aren't going to do anything to power terminator mega armour with wings.
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Post by dougeye on Jul 4, 2015 14:07:28 GMT -5
im thinking gold knights rather than grey knights lol I wonder whats in store for 40k, will 40k see Abbadon finishing his 13th black crusade and the Emperor being reincarnated and creating centurions in dreadnaught mk15 armour  |
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Post by emptyhat on Jul 4, 2015 18:33:56 GMT -5
Yeah, it looks like a pure cross-over. Skinks with blowpipes aren't going to do anything to power terminator mega armour with wings. What sort of blow pipes do you think the Slann can give them from their Lizardman craftworld temples? |
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Post by cheminhaler on Jul 5, 2015 7:07:59 GMT -5
Armour piercing with explosive bolt darts? It looks like the old ranges are still up there on the GW site. So if you're looking for lizardmen just go to the 'Forces of Order', then click 'lizardmen'. (Though obviously we're just going to play older editions ) I'll be happy if the Empire ranges stay; they're great 40k conversion material too.. |
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Post by cheminhaler on Jul 5, 2015 8:44:08 GMT -5
Sepulchre of HeroesAlso it transpires that the Saturday 4th July WD has a free Stormcast Eternal miniature on the front cover.
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Post by emptyhat on Jul 5, 2015 10:50:04 GMT -5
Armour piercing with explosive bolt darts? Plasma. |
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Post by cheminhaler on Jul 5, 2015 16:58:33 GMT -5
The skaven already have assault cannons coming out of every orifice with that End Times beast pack.
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Post by Kassill on Jul 5, 2015 17:00:00 GMT -5
RIP WHFB
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Post by treadiculous on Jul 23, 2015 9:03:59 GMT -5
so what is the deal with this 'age of sigmar'... what has changed, what remains the same?
I'm getting the impression that fluff wise the fantasy realm has been exploded, the style of game became skirmish rather than medieval formations and in terms of rules the game became simplified to 4 pages.
none of which sounds like WHFB.
I guess GW wanted everyone to buy older edition rulebooks off ebay and / or find a better version of fantasy tabletop gaming.
leaves a nice gap in the market for someone to fill.
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Post by kirsten on Jul 25, 2015 5:32:32 GMT -5
it is difficult. by all accounts Warhammer wasn't selling at all. 50% of the development team, for 15% of the sales some sources are quoting. so it needed a radical overhaul, and they have gone for it.
on the one hand, I don't like the look of a lot of it rules wise, I want blocks of infantry manoeuvring around and careful positioning. on the other hand, Age of Sigmar has got people talking about GW Fantasy like never before, loads of people who were put off by the old rules, are flocking to it. Equally, whilst I miss the old fluff, I am quite excited to see what they do with it from now on. people are making a lot of assumptions about what the game will be like when we have only had one new faction so far. if a lot of the races get model updates that are similar in idea to the old stuff, I think older players will come to it, recognising what they liked about their warhammer army. if dwarfs are still dudes with heavy armour, cannon, slayers etc. that will put a lot of fears to rest. just because the sigmarites are very large and rooted in high fantasy gods, magic etc. doesn't mean everything will be. certainly I will be a lot happier if some form of Empire and Bretonnian like troops still exist. if we look at the khorne models they are very much continuing the trend set by previous chaos releases, not a radical overhaul of the force.
the problem for me is that I only have one regular warhammer opponent, and he wants to stick with 8th edition. certainly I prefer 8th rules wise, but on the other hand, 8th is done with, it will never evolve. no new rules, no new models or background. and I don't want to keep playing the same battle over and over.
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Post by cheminhaler on Jul 29, 2015 14:36:01 GMT -5
I agree that if it wasn't selling something needed to change. However there were some poor decisions made; perhaps petty things like always re-releasing The Empire and never giving Bretonnia an update. I was waiting for the fabled Araby vs the Fish People boxed set but it never happened. But really probably like most people it's hard buying into 2 systems and sci-fi is a personal preference over fantasy.
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Post by Walk on Jul 30, 2015 22:58:12 GMT -5
I actually just played my first game of age of sigmar yesterday, having never played fantasy at all. My 10 year old, yet still green empire army was highly disappointed with the simplicity of the rules. Don't get me wrong, the game it self is quite fun, but in the same way as a complex board game is. To me it barely felt like a true wargame, lacking a lot of the strategy that I had come to expect from fantasy. That being said, it did give me an opportunity to play with what few models I had (about 100 "wounds" as they say now) so I will give it that. It is much more friendly to beginners. Bonus: an in action shot  |
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Post by cheminhaler on Jul 31, 2015 14:29:12 GMT -5
A hundred wounds worth of Chaos Knights is the same as 100 wounds of goblin archers in the new system? I'm not ready to get back into fantasy just yet but I'm going to fully read both the 3rd edition rules and 8th and decide which I prefer. I don't have enough 8th edition compatible army books, I think I have most of the 6th/ 7th ones and the WD Dogs of War list in a 2004ish book.
It's weird seeing skirmishing spearmen like that. Thanks for sharing that picture; that's a great Empire army. Empire was the army I collected as a young teenager. I liked the models for my 10 Tilean crossbowmen; they always died or ran away except in one 40k participation game in the early 90s when they stood around doing nothing in a futuristic siege.
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Post by Walk on Aug 3, 2015 13:33:56 GMT -5
I agree, the skirmishing everything is a total bummer. One of the things I was really excited to see when I finally got enough to play fantasy was the massed ranks. There is still some benefit to ranking (or more or less doing so) as you want to be able to pile into combat but its not the same.
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Post by cheminhaler on Aug 3, 2015 15:43:35 GMT -5
The lack of movement trays must make things slower for a big game. Then again it used to take horde armies so long to unpack and set regiments up that the time you gain in using them is offset by the time you save to move them around faster. Here's an interesting article about Age of Sigmar; heavily critical but in the comments bit people are saying it's becoming popular with the younger generation. geek dad review |
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Aug 3, 2015 16:51:46 GMT -5
Honestly, Hail Caesar Fantasy is where it's at.
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Post by RedsandRoyals on Aug 3, 2015 16:53:34 GMT -5
Honestly, Hail Caesar Fantasy is where it's at. I'm actually a little surprised you didn't burn down GW HQ on principle after the new Fantasy rules dropped. |
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Post by kirsten on Aug 3, 2015 17:33:59 GMT -5
I know a lot of people aren't happy with it, I was pretty disappointed myself. but if you look around online, it has revitalised interest in fantasy, and got a lot of people involved who never would have picked up a 9th edition set. love it or loathe it, I think it will be a success for Games Workshop.
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Post by treadiculous on Aug 4, 2015 4:53:05 GMT -5
With the old rule books lurking on many players shelves and access to the internet I foresee that there will be a website which will become home to a community agreed upon rules set.
It'll take time but I think there are a lot of veteran players who will want to keep the older system going while newer players are drawn to Sigmar.
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Post by emptyhat on Aug 4, 2015 11:44:44 GMT -5
Well I'm certainly not rebasing any of my Fantasy models.
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Post by kirsten on Aug 7, 2015 8:25:28 GMT -5
I rebased my ogres, they do look cool. building the bretonnians I never got round to before as well, and the knights look great on oval bases.
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Post by treadiculous on Aug 10, 2015 13:35:34 GMT -5
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