Post by akaiyou on Nov 8, 2015 3:03:56 GMT -5
I'm playing against my buddy and need help deciding which 2 lists to use for our upcoming games. He tends to use a lord of war or two in every game. Imperial Knight + Shadowsword or the most OP space marine formations so from these lists I came up with which 2 are the strongest/best?
LIST A
Formation:
1 Ragnar's Claws, 1149 pts
1 Ragnar Blackmane (Warlord)
9 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Wolf Guard Pack Leader (Bolt Pistol; Frost Axe x1)
1 Rhino (Dozer Blade)
9 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Wolf Guard Pack Leader (Bolt Pistol; Frost Sword x1)
1 Rhino (Dozer Blade)
9 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Wolf Guard Pack Leader (Bolt Pistol; Power Sword x1)
1 Rhino (Dozer Blade)
10 Skyclaws (Meltagun x2)
10 Swiftclaws (Meltagun)
1 Swiftclaw Attack Bike (Multi-melta)
Combined Arms Detachment
1 Company Command Squad (HQ) [Mil], 180 pts
4 Veteran [Mil] (Lasgun x1; Meltagun x3)
1 Company Commander [Mil] (Laspistol; Power Sword)
1 Chimera [Mil] (Heavy Bolter; Multilaser; Heavy Stubber; Dozer Blade)
1 Veteran Squad (Troops) [Mil], 165 pts
9 Veteran [Mil] (Lasgun x6; Meltagun x3)
1 Veteran Sergeant [Mil]
1 Chimera [Mil] (Heavy Flamer; Multilaser; Heavy Stubber; Dozer Blade)
1 Veteran Squad (Troops) [Mil], 165 pts
9 Veteran [Mil] (Lasgun x6; Meltagun x3)
1 Veteran Sergeant [Mil]
1 Chimera [Mil] (Heavy Flamer; Multilaser; Heavy Stubber; Dozer Blade)
1 Vendetta Squadron (Fast) [Mil], 340 pts
1 Vendetta [Mil] (Twin-linked Lascannon (nose); 2 x Twin-linked Lascannon)
1 Vendetta [Mil] (Twin-linked Lascannon (nose); 2 x Twin-linked Lascannon)
1 Vendetta Squadron (Fast) [Mil], 340 pts
1 Vendetta [Mil] (Twin-linked Lascannon (nose); 2 x Twin-linked Lascannon)
1 Vendetta [Mil] (Twin-linked Lascannon (nose); 2 x Twin-linked Lascannon)
1 Deathstrike (Heavy) [Mil], 160 pts
Total Roster Cost: 2499
LIST B
Formation:
1 Ragnar's Claws, 1080 pts
1 Ragnar Blackmane
10 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
10 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Rhino
10 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Rhino
10 Skyclaws (Meltagun x2)
10 Swiftclaws (Meltagun)
1 Swiftclaw Attack Bike (Multi-melta)
Company of the Great Wolf Detachment
1 Harald Deathwolf, 190 pts (Warlord)
1 Canis Wolfborn, 185 pts
1 Iron Priest, 105 pts (Thunderwolf Mount)
1 Iron Priest, 105 pts (Thunderwolf Mount)
1 Thunderwolf Cavalry, 505 pts
1 Pack Leader (Melta Bombs; Storm Shield x1; Wolf Claw)
5 Thunderwolf Cavalry (Melta Bombs; Storm Shield x1; Power Fist x1)
10 Fenrisian Wolves, 80 pts
1 Land Raider Redeemer, 250 pts (Multi-melta)
Total Roster Cost: 2500
LIST C
Formation:
1 Ragnar's Claws, 1149 pts
1 Ragnar Blackmane (Warlord)
9 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Wolf Guard Pack Leader (Bolt Pistol; Frost Axe x1)
1 Rhino (Dozer Blade)
9 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Wolf Guard Pack Leader (Bolt Pistol; Frost Sword x1)
1 Rhino (Dozer Blade)
9 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Wolf Guard Pack Leader (Bolt Pistol; Power Sword x1)
1 Rhino (Dozer Blade)
10 Skyclaws (Meltagun x2)
10 Swiftclaws (Meltagun)
1 Swiftclaw Attack Bike (Multi-melta)
Formation:
1 Wolf Guard Void Claws, 240 pts (Formation)
1 Wolf Guard Terminators
1 Wolf Guard Terminator Leader (Two Wolf Claws)
4 Wolf Guard Terminator (Two Wolf Claws)
Formation:
1 Wolf Guard Void Claws, 240 pts (Formation)
1 Wolf Guard Terminators
1 Wolf Guard Terminator Leader (Two Wolf Claws)
4 Wolf Guard Terminator (Two Wolf Claws)
Combined Arms Detachment
1 Company Command Squad (HQ) [Mil], 200 pts
4 Veteran [Mil] (Lasgun x1; Frag Grenades; Meltagun x3; Flak Armour)
1 Company Commander [Mil] (Laspistol; Power Fist; Camo gear)
1 Chimera [Mil] (Heavy Bolter; Multilaser; Heavy Stubber; Dozer Blade)
1 Veteran Squad (Troops) [Mil], 165 pts
9 Veteran [Mil] (Lasgun x6; Meltagun x3)
1 Veteran Sergeant [Mil]
1 Chimera [Mil] (Heavy Flamer; Multilaser; Heavy Stubber; Dozer Blade)
1 Veteran Squad (Troops) [Mil], 165 pts
9 Veteran [Mil] (Lasgun x6; Meltagun x3)
1 Veteran Sergeant [Mil]
1 Chimera [Mil] (Heavy Flamer; Multilaser; Heavy Stubber; Dozer Blade)
1 Vendetta Squadron (Fast) [Mil], 170 pts
1 Vendetta [Mil] (Twin-linked Lascannon (nose); 2 x Twin-linked Lascannon)
1 Vendetta Squadron (Fast) [Mil], 170 pts
1 Vendetta [Mil] (Twin-linked Lascannon (nose); 2 x Twin-linked Lascannon)
Total Roster Cost: 2499
LIST D
Formation:
1 Ragnar's Claws, 1109 pts
1 Ragnar Blackmane (Warlord)
9 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Wolf Guard Pack Leader (Bolt Pistol; Frost Axe x1)
9 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Wolf Guard Pack Leader (Bolt Pistol; Frost Sword x1)
1 Rhino (Dozer Blade)
9 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Wolf Guard Pack Leader (Bolt Pistol; Power Sword x1)
1 Rhino (Dozer Blade)
10 Skyclaws (Meltagun x2)
10 Swiftclaws (Meltagun)
1 Swiftclaw Attack Bike (Multi-melta)
Formation:
1 Wolf Guard Void Claws, 240 pts (Formation)
1 Wolf Guard Terminators
1 Wolf Guard Terminator Leader (Two Wolf Claws)
4 Wolf Guard Terminator (Two Wolf Claws)
Formation:
1 Wolf Guard Void Claws, 240 pts (Formation)
1 Wolf Guard Terminators
1 Wolf Guard Terminator Leader (Two Wolf Claws)
4 Wolf Guard Terminator (Two Wolf Claws)
Unbound:
1 Fellblade Super-Heavy Tank (IA), 660 pts (Armoured Ceramite; Multi-Melta; Battle of Keylek)
1 Land Raider Redeemer, 250 pts (Multi-melta)
Total Roster Cost: 2499
LIST A
Formation:
1 Ragnar's Claws, 1149 pts
1 Ragnar Blackmane (Warlord)
9 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Wolf Guard Pack Leader (Bolt Pistol; Frost Axe x1)
1 Rhino (Dozer Blade)
9 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Wolf Guard Pack Leader (Bolt Pistol; Frost Sword x1)
1 Rhino (Dozer Blade)
9 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Wolf Guard Pack Leader (Bolt Pistol; Power Sword x1)
1 Rhino (Dozer Blade)
10 Skyclaws (Meltagun x2)
10 Swiftclaws (Meltagun)
1 Swiftclaw Attack Bike (Multi-melta)
Combined Arms Detachment
1 Company Command Squad (HQ) [Mil], 180 pts
4 Veteran [Mil] (Lasgun x1; Meltagun x3)
1 Company Commander [Mil] (Laspistol; Power Sword)
1 Chimera [Mil] (Heavy Bolter; Multilaser; Heavy Stubber; Dozer Blade)
1 Veteran Squad (Troops) [Mil], 165 pts
9 Veteran [Mil] (Lasgun x6; Meltagun x3)
1 Veteran Sergeant [Mil]
1 Chimera [Mil] (Heavy Flamer; Multilaser; Heavy Stubber; Dozer Blade)
1 Veteran Squad (Troops) [Mil], 165 pts
9 Veteran [Mil] (Lasgun x6; Meltagun x3)
1 Veteran Sergeant [Mil]
1 Chimera [Mil] (Heavy Flamer; Multilaser; Heavy Stubber; Dozer Blade)
1 Vendetta Squadron (Fast) [Mil], 340 pts
1 Vendetta [Mil] (Twin-linked Lascannon (nose); 2 x Twin-linked Lascannon)
1 Vendetta [Mil] (Twin-linked Lascannon (nose); 2 x Twin-linked Lascannon)
1 Vendetta Squadron (Fast) [Mil], 340 pts
1 Vendetta [Mil] (Twin-linked Lascannon (nose); 2 x Twin-linked Lascannon)
1 Vendetta [Mil] (Twin-linked Lascannon (nose); 2 x Twin-linked Lascannon)
1 Deathstrike (Heavy) [Mil], 160 pts
Total Roster Cost: 2499
LIST B
Formation:
1 Ragnar's Claws, 1080 pts
1 Ragnar Blackmane
10 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
10 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Rhino
10 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Rhino
10 Skyclaws (Meltagun x2)
10 Swiftclaws (Meltagun)
1 Swiftclaw Attack Bike (Multi-melta)
Company of the Great Wolf Detachment
1 Harald Deathwolf, 190 pts (Warlord)
1 Canis Wolfborn, 185 pts
1 Iron Priest, 105 pts (Thunderwolf Mount)
1 Iron Priest, 105 pts (Thunderwolf Mount)
1 Thunderwolf Cavalry, 505 pts
1 Pack Leader (Melta Bombs; Storm Shield x1; Wolf Claw)
5 Thunderwolf Cavalry (Melta Bombs; Storm Shield x1; Power Fist x1)
10 Fenrisian Wolves, 80 pts
1 Land Raider Redeemer, 250 pts (Multi-melta)
Total Roster Cost: 2500
LIST C
Formation:
1 Ragnar's Claws, 1149 pts
1 Ragnar Blackmane (Warlord)
9 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Wolf Guard Pack Leader (Bolt Pistol; Frost Axe x1)
1 Rhino (Dozer Blade)
9 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Wolf Guard Pack Leader (Bolt Pistol; Frost Sword x1)
1 Rhino (Dozer Blade)
9 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Wolf Guard Pack Leader (Bolt Pistol; Power Sword x1)
1 Rhino (Dozer Blade)
10 Skyclaws (Meltagun x2)
10 Swiftclaws (Meltagun)
1 Swiftclaw Attack Bike (Multi-melta)
Formation:
1 Wolf Guard Void Claws, 240 pts (Formation)
1 Wolf Guard Terminators
1 Wolf Guard Terminator Leader (Two Wolf Claws)
4 Wolf Guard Terminator (Two Wolf Claws)
Formation:
1 Wolf Guard Void Claws, 240 pts (Formation)
1 Wolf Guard Terminators
1 Wolf Guard Terminator Leader (Two Wolf Claws)
4 Wolf Guard Terminator (Two Wolf Claws)
Combined Arms Detachment
1 Company Command Squad (HQ) [Mil], 200 pts
4 Veteran [Mil] (Lasgun x1; Frag Grenades; Meltagun x3; Flak Armour)
1 Company Commander [Mil] (Laspistol; Power Fist; Camo gear)
1 Chimera [Mil] (Heavy Bolter; Multilaser; Heavy Stubber; Dozer Blade)
1 Veteran Squad (Troops) [Mil], 165 pts
9 Veteran [Mil] (Lasgun x6; Meltagun x3)
1 Veteran Sergeant [Mil]
1 Chimera [Mil] (Heavy Flamer; Multilaser; Heavy Stubber; Dozer Blade)
1 Veteran Squad (Troops) [Mil], 165 pts
9 Veteran [Mil] (Lasgun x6; Meltagun x3)
1 Veteran Sergeant [Mil]
1 Chimera [Mil] (Heavy Flamer; Multilaser; Heavy Stubber; Dozer Blade)
1 Vendetta Squadron (Fast) [Mil], 170 pts
1 Vendetta [Mil] (Twin-linked Lascannon (nose); 2 x Twin-linked Lascannon)
1 Vendetta Squadron (Fast) [Mil], 170 pts
1 Vendetta [Mil] (Twin-linked Lascannon (nose); 2 x Twin-linked Lascannon)
Total Roster Cost: 2499
LIST D
Formation:
1 Ragnar's Claws, 1109 pts
1 Ragnar Blackmane (Warlord)
9 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Wolf Guard Pack Leader (Bolt Pistol; Frost Axe x1)
9 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Wolf Guard Pack Leader (Bolt Pistol; Frost Sword x1)
1 Rhino (Dozer Blade)
9 Blood Claws (Meltagun)
1 Wolf Guard Pack Leader (Bolt Pistol; Power Sword x1)
1 Rhino (Dozer Blade)
10 Skyclaws (Meltagun x2)
10 Swiftclaws (Meltagun)
1 Swiftclaw Attack Bike (Multi-melta)
Formation:
1 Wolf Guard Void Claws, 240 pts (Formation)
1 Wolf Guard Terminators
1 Wolf Guard Terminator Leader (Two Wolf Claws)
4 Wolf Guard Terminator (Two Wolf Claws)
Formation:
1 Wolf Guard Void Claws, 240 pts (Formation)
1 Wolf Guard Terminators
1 Wolf Guard Terminator Leader (Two Wolf Claws)
4 Wolf Guard Terminator (Two Wolf Claws)
Unbound:
1 Fellblade Super-Heavy Tank (IA), 660 pts (Armoured Ceramite; Multi-Melta; Battle of Keylek)
1 Land Raider Redeemer, 250 pts (Multi-melta)
Total Roster Cost: 2499