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Post by Trickstick on Jun 2, 2017 6:09:57 GMT -5
So I am trying to get my army back in shape for 8th, but all of my glue has long since dried up. I was wondering if people could recommend a good poly cement and super glue. I used to use GW glues, mainly as I played in a GW store, but they are probably a rip off compared to other brands. They don't need to be extreme super hardcore glues, I can't say I ever had a problem with the performance of the GW stuff. It also helped that I often remodel stuff later on, so an extremely powerful glue would probably hinder this.
UK brands would be preferable.
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Post by cheminhaler on Jun 2, 2017 6:48:51 GMT -5
For Super glue you can get either Loctite or Gorilla glue. Loctite I recommend the one that looks like a space ship and is usually £4.99 in some random DIY store. The cheapo disposable ones aren't worth it unless you glue everything together in one go before it dries out - plus they tend to explode and get superglue everywhere even with a gentle touch.
Gorilla is a bit more expensive - imported from US (I think) but it's available in the more expensive pound shops (the £6.99 shops) but has a nice picture of a gorilla on it and is slightly stronger than Loctite.
Always buy the nozzle rather than the brush which dries out immediately.
Plastic glue I just buy GW - worth noting that they only sell the thin one now.
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Post by Trickstick on Jun 2, 2017 7:03:10 GMT -5
I remember using the Loctite rocket, it seemed OK. Will have to look at Gorilla, I've heard the name before but never used it. I saw that GW is selling 5 packs of small super glue now, which is a bit weird. Going to have to do a £/ml comparison but GW usually has a high markup.
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Post by emptyhat on Jun 2, 2017 10:29:55 GMT -5
Is the Loctite rocket the powerflex one? With the rubber in it. I've just been trying that out and so far I like it.
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Post by Trickstick on Jun 2, 2017 10:55:11 GMT -5
I think it is any of the "control" ones, with the squeeze applicator. Been looking at a few. Opinions on gel vs liquid? I think that I have used both in the past, and both are useful for different things. Whenever I am using glue, I almost always you a tiny bit of paper to spread a small amount exactly where I need. I guess gel is better for this.
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Post by cheminhaler on Jun 2, 2017 11:13:47 GMT -5
 I meant the normal super glue, not the Gel one, but they are quite similar in application. Edit - yes, I use a tiny bit of paper to wipe away excess gel or glue but do it fast or the paper gets stuck. |
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Post by emptyhat on Jun 2, 2017 13:33:33 GMT -5
Liquid is the champ when you need to get into a gap you can't get to except through gravity.
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Post by RedCuffs on Jun 2, 2017 15:02:14 GMT -5
Best poly glue I've used is from Revell.  Not so much the glue itself, although it does the job well enough, but the needle like applicator. Makes using the right amount in the right place very easy. Comes in two sizes, 12.5 ml and 25bml or something like that. Problems arise when the lumen of the applicator get blocked with dried up glue if he cover isn't put on properly. Easy enough to unblock with the bristles of a toothbrush though. Just remove the glue before you brush your teeth. As for super glue ... the cheapo pack of three from "the pound shop". |
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Post by Trickstick on Jun 2, 2017 15:06:32 GMT -5
The revell one seems interesting, I do love a good applicator. I seem to remember having problems with too much glue coming out of a similar type, although I would guess it was user error to do with fluid dynamics. (-:
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Post by treadiculous on Jun 3, 2017 8:31:57 GMT -5
loctite do one with a tiny brush aplicator, so far its been my longest-opened-without-drying-up super glue purchase.
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Post by emptyhat on Jun 3, 2017 10:20:18 GMT -5
I really loved the acrylic brush on the old GW superglue, them scrapping it is why I stopped buying superglue from them.
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Post by chemicalnova on Jun 7, 2017 9:23:12 GMT -5
I like the locktite brand. The gel version is good for pieces that leave small gaps and the thin version works really well. I personally have had really good luck with Testors liquid poly cement. The one that comes in a glass jar with an applicator brush. Just watch the smell though, it's some pretty foul smelling stuff.
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Post by cheminhaler on Jun 7, 2017 9:34:15 GMT -5
Actually I had a bad batch of GW plastic glue. All my new generation orc boarboyz are in a box, slowly falling apart. I really loved the acrylic brush on the old GW superglue, them scrapping it is why I stopped buying superglue from them. Really? I hated the brush as it would never last beyond gluing 3 models together before the brush became super hard or covered in gunk and unable to get back in the hole. In fact GW forced me to buy Loctite nozzle glue as I wasted 2 nearly full pots of GW brush super glue. |
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Post by emptyhat on Jun 7, 2017 18:02:11 GMT -5
A few of my glue brushes died young but a bunch lasted longer than the pot so I tended to have spares. On the other hand I seem to get through 1/2 a locktite squeeze before having glued the lid to the nozzle. Then it becomes a game of cutting the lid off and then drilling the hole the next time I want some glue.
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Post by Trickstick on Jun 7, 2017 18:25:28 GMT -5
On the other hand I seem to get through 1/2 a locktite squeeze before having glued the lid to the nozzle. Then it becomes a game of cutting the lid off and then drilling the hole the next time I want some glue. You have to be sure that the "bubble" of air from inside clears the nozzle of glue before putting the cap on. You can do this by placing it vertically and squeezing gently, which can waste some glue. Or you can use the alternative method: inserting a cat whisker to "pop" the glue in the nozzle, causing it to clear instantly. Cat whiskers are perfect, as they are super thin yet strong. (Please note, it is best to use cat whiskers that have fallen off through use. Extracting them or using them without removal is not recommended. In fact, I'm pretty sure it is heresy.) |
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Post by treadiculous on Jun 7, 2017 19:41:39 GMT -5
I'm with empty on this occurrence, its the glue which builds up on the outside of the nozzle that then sticks to the inside of the lid, after which there is no easy way to get the glue out.
You can only squeeze random sized blobs from the hole you make in the tube from then on, however some of this glue can then be transferred to the model via a pin.
I ended up getting a load of the really small tubes of loctite for £1 each, by the time the lid was an issue i'd pretty much have used up the 3ml of glue.
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Post by nutty on Jun 8, 2017 0:14:01 GMT -5
Personally I like to use zap-a-gap superglue; but only the green bottle which is slightly thicker but still plenty runny. For me the pink version just gets everywhere (apply to front of a tank, glue your finger to the back..) so I stopped using it. You can also get an accelerator for it so it sets even faster. I've yet to work out how the cap goes back on the bottle after opening it... but it tends to seal itself so it doesn't dry out, so I use a needle-tool to lance the nozzle before use. Probably not how it is intended to work though  As for plastic cement/glue.. I rarely use the stuff as I rather have a part break off than have the part break al together. But I have some revell plastic glue with a brush applicator which does what I need it to do. When it eventuallu runs out I'll probably get the one with the needle as I only use it for the really finicky stuff. |
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