Appocolyptic Doctrines

[Deleted]

ik this has come up before but i cant remember where.

Can you take only 5 doctrines in appocolypse?

I think its 5 per unit. I base this purely on the alliances part of appoc. if you can have 2 different races working you can have several IG units. Some would have other doctrines than others but no more than 5 for the unit. But each unit could have different docs in a powergaming list.

All i think is that I should be able to have my emperors fist unit, with Banes and macharius, My Mechanised Infantry in chims, with helhammers and hellhounds, and drop troops, and emperors Talon bassies all in one army. Ik that you cant mix some doctrines so units wont have deepstrike and mechanised but the army will have parts that do so.

[Deleted]

Good luck finding anyone who wants to play that killer list. This is one of the many annoying ambiques rules, possibly get hold of the Apocolypse Rulebook which might have something regarding IG doctrines. I hope that they manage the doctrines or IG will become a madhouse with all the combinations, scary.

[sammy1979]

having read it from cover to cover there are no mention of doctorines, so i suppose there are no limits as there are no force org charts, but it does go on about fairness in length and as apocolypse is really a game for friends to play i suppose its what ever you deam fair, my mates and i have agreed that non of the race or special troop choices such as stotrmtrooper rattlings and ogryn rules apply, and doctorine points ltd to five to spend on proper doctorines or special equipment are within limit and as the IG player in the group and my force is split into battalions 4 in total each battalion can have five differant doctorine points, i think thats what your doing and as far as i can see its the only fair way to do it. but if any one finds a specfic referance in the book please post it as i'm sure we are all eager to have a definate answer.

[fatuous]

The way I read it is that the whole point of the new update is to be able to use your entire miniture collection to have fun. The last word there being the most important. Even Jarvis said so in a Standard Bearer article in the last WD. It is supposed to be fun. So as long as it is fun and makes some sort of sense then I really don't see the problem.

It is not unlikely that several IG armies will be in operation in the same theatre. And not always at company strength. A small section of Cadians could easily be holding a stretch of line backed up by part of an armoured company. So having parts or 2 seperate regiaments is fine IMO.

Personnally I do not have many characters. My friend on the other hand has almost all of the Pheonix lords, plus a few other uber hard bar stewards in his eldar army. He'll happily be taking all of them in a game. And who is to stop him. that is what apocalypse is for. I am adding a couple of catachan characters to my force. No they may not be able to go toe to toe with a pheonix lord, but a power fist that attacks at normal Ini is far too good to pass up. I'll be adding a platoon or so of catachans to my collection. I have some any way, but they are not a competetive part of my general IG list (basically I wanted the arms and heads for convertions and figured I should use up some of the bodies and legs too , and as far as I'm concerned, that is fair game. I do not expect to be hearing any complaints from my opponents (please remember here that I will be playing my mates for fun, whether u agreed or not makes no difference to me, as it is unlikely that I will be playing that sort of game with any of you).

The whole point of apocalypse should be to have fun. Ur army should reflect that and if it doesn't, you just won't get to play, wasting all your time money and effort. We could all make and army up soley of land speeders and hellhounds, it would probably be very effective, but wouldn't be much for to play against.

Similarly with using mixed IG regimements. Apocalypse gives u the oppertunity to add small detachments of other regiments to your army, just because u like what they look like, or u like some of their rules. If it is fun to play with and against, I doubt you will have any problems. If it doesn't make much sense, apart from being an uber list, then u simply won't get to play, so what is teh point.

Hmmm, rambled on a bit there

[twerd]

well duh fatous we know that

but as you said other armies will have al the phenik lords etc so maybe prehaps the IG have deal with this in fair matter hmm 5000 pionts of guard with no limits on things i doubt any one can match us normally let alone apocalspe

[Woz]

I think that if it's obvious that your using different regiments ie Cadians and Catchens or all Cadians but painted in completley different colour schemes then it should be fine to use different doc's.

But I don't think it'll be OK if you've got just one army all painted the same (like mine) and you take some as mechanized, some as drop troops then and throw in a few squads with warrior weapons.

[Deleted]

I did intend seperate armies however it would make sense to have different parts of a regiment trained differently. After all airborne troops have tank support, perhaps from dropships. (Tau manta sized behemoths) I would paint up the army in different colors. The themes I'm thinking of involve seven regiments deployed to battle and in the fighting they form ad hoc battalions with companies from different races mixed together.

Ie:(its colonial British/ world war one themed)

The Praetorians - South Africans
The Englians - The British
The Delhians - India
The Cymru - ANZACs
The Hellulanders - Canadians
The Demos - Americans
The Tallarn - The Anglo-Arabs

It'd look cool.