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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2007 15:41:13 GMT -5
Noone knows for sure why farsight went rogue. Most think he's either just a revolutionary against the socialist ways of the tau. Others think of him as a C'tan puppet. A few think he's currupted by Chaos. GW says he suffers from an extreme case of Battlesuit Neurosis a psycological issue from having the power of a battlesuit and putting yourself before the Greater Good.
I have my own conclusion: Farsight was given the Dawnblade by the eldar. I think it is the same sword as was used in Dawn of War: Tempest, the Blade Of Vaul, as this is called Anaris The Dawnlight. It's an ancient artifact that destroys the necron and based on it's description and name it could be the same sword. This would still make Farsight a good guy but not pro Greater Good tau and therefore a traitor. Eldrad Ulthran is probably behind it as from his quote on the tau he sees them as the new eldar and could have passed on the blade. The timelime for this is sketchy though. Whether or not Ulthrad is dead is also important. But the Blood ravens in the book were in contact with the Ulthwe who are Eldrad's people. Who helped them get the sword to fight the necrons. Farsight could have gotten the sword after this. Or perhaps it was another Eldar relic of similar importance.
Any other ideas are appreciated.
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on Sept 9, 2007 11:21:18 GMT -5
Farsight was kept to long away from a Ethereal meaning the Pheramons wore off, He then became self-Concious and saw that the Tau were fighting a losing battle and decided to renegade againts the Tau Empire. The blade was a Relic he fought long and hard for and was the reason he was away from an Ethereal for so long, but has no impact and was not the cause of him turning away from the Tau Empire
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Post by Mabus on Sept 11, 2007 15:16:40 GMT -5
Explain how the Tau are fighting a loosing battle. Have I missed something? The imperium has failed to fufill it's objectives in almost every major engagement against the Tau. It's the Imperium that's fighting the loosing battle azlar.
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on Sept 13, 2007 4:04:50 GMT -5
I didnt say they were losing a Fighting a loosing battle, but that he thought they were loosing battle. so turned from them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2007 14:39:27 GMT -5
I think hes acting independently just that hes been influenced by the Ulthwe. I know that as a non psyker he could never use the sword for its true purpose but even so it is still a mighty weapon as its portrayed in game. What race better to hold on to the greatest weapon against the necrontyr than the nearly uncorruptable and ambitious tau.
As Eldrad clearly thought that the tau were much like the eldar before the fall, only non psychic and therefore less likely to destroy themselves. I question that pheremones can control a people as advanced as the tau, mabey during the Montau period but I doubt even then. I dont doubt that etherials have pheremone producing glands I just think that they are more for calming the tau down not controlling them.
In the real world pheremones are used to attract mates, announce territory, calm down,and alert to danger. Nothing points to them being able to be used as mind control.
Although certainly disheartened by the tau government I find it hard to believe that he would view them as losing. Perhaps weak to a major attack which would explain his building of fortified colonies on the border that faces towards the heart of the imperium. More likely though he didnt want to risk his men to a second crossing of the damocles as well as give up on all the systems he took from the orks. The Damocles Gulf is a weak warp storm but still deadly, the imperium lost a large part of it's forces before they even reached tau space.
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on Sept 21, 2007 5:08:48 GMT -5
In the real world pheremones are used to attract mates, announce territory, calm down,and alert to danger. Nothing points to them being able to be used as mind control. Yeah, but we are not talking about the real world are we. 40K is a futurisct universe with a lot of very evolved beings, so the Etherals, which are rumoured to be Eldar, may have evolved thier pheramone abilites to control the tau castes
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Post by twerd on Sept 21, 2007 19:45:19 GMT -5
Farsight just wants more power or wealth it does not anywhere that the tau are immune to these things hes just a buissence man or tau
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Oct 15, 2007 12:50:50 GMT -5
Farsight is just another military commander who has been shat on by his high command once too many, realised that he CAN do a BETTER JOB OF DEALING with issues than the ethearals (who are morons,I mean, who delibartely provokes war with a merciless empire that is 6 x 10 to the power of 94 times larger than you and commanded by the finest miliatry minds in the galaxy?)
And on the tau fighting a losing battle..... they are. One tau player has lost 4 times in a row to my latest army. And since there is about one tau to every million guardsman, we are actually winning. Well, I am.
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Post by Mabus on Oct 15, 2007 14:43:20 GMT -5
Speak for yourself, I haven't lost with mu Tau for quite some time.
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Oct 16, 2007 10:18:11 GMT -5
I would offer a game, but I'm about a thousand miles away from you....
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Post by Mabus on Oct 16, 2007 12:31:08 GMT -5
..........yeah, that is a bit of a problem!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2007 16:49:04 GMT -5
insects are often controlled by phermons so there is in fact many piles of evidence that pheromons do have mind control.
and as said this is not the real world it is 40k. i think he just studied his teachings too much and is dissapointed that others dont fight as well as his soldiers do so he just got feed up.
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Post by twerd on Oct 20, 2007 5:44:28 GMT -5
yeh that's proably it
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2007 16:17:33 GMT -5
What happened to farsight I honestly don’t know, but let’s review what we do know the Ethereals control the Tau to the point the other classes would rather die than not do what they command, and what is the truth about "For The Gather God, of all the Tau race as a hole or to the Ethereals themselves I think that the my be the tau are more closer to bugs like ants and termites then men and that maybe more looking into the ethereal should be looked into. Or when the Imperial vessel Lands Vision should have did humanity a favour and wipe them out when they had the chance,
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2007 11:29:48 GMT -5
they probably didnt have the man power or time. and when they did send a fleet to wipe them out a horrible warp storm over came them.
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