The Cadian 41st [Revised]

[Colonel Grammissar Azalar]

The Cadian 41st
Doctrines:
Special Weapons Squads
Restricted Troop - Storm Trooper Squads
Hardened Fighters
Sharpshooters


HQ Squad
One Heroic Senior Officer
- Powersword
One Master Vox Caster
One Meltagun
- 2 Veteran Upgrades
One Standard Bearer
One Medic
One Commissar
Total – 192 Points

Special Weapon Support Squad
6 Guards men
- 3 Sniper Rifles
Total – 65 Points

Mortar Support Squad
One Mortar Squad
Total – 80 Points

Fire Support Squad
6 Guards men
3 Heavy Bolters
Sharpshooters
Total – 90 Points

Storm Troopers
Sergeant
- Powersword
8 Storm Troopers
- Flamer
- Grenade Launcher
Total – 109 Points


Alpha Platoon

Platoon HQ
One Junior Officer
- Powerfist
One Voxcaster
3 Guardsmen
Hardened Fighters
Sharpshooters
Total – 90 Points

Squad One
Sergeant
One Vox Caster
One Missile Launcher
One Flamer
5 Guardsmen
Hardened Fighters
Sharpshooters
Total – 111 Points

Squad Two
Sergeant
One Vox Caster
One Lascannon
One Flamer
5 Guardsmen
Hardened Fighters
Sharpshooters
Total – 121 Points

Squad Three
Sergeant
One Vox Caster
One Autocannon
One Flamer
5 Guardsmen
Hardened Fighters
Sharpshooters
Total – 111 Points

Platoon Total – 433 Points

Beta Platoon

Platoon HQ
One Junior Officer
- Powersword
- Plasma Pistol
One Voxcaster
3 Guardsmen
Total – 60 Points

Squad One
Sergeant
One Vox Caster
8 Guardsmen
Hardened Fighters
Sharpshooters
Total – 90 Points

Squad Two
Sergeant
One Vox Caster
One Missile Launcher
One Flamer
5 Guardsmen
Hardened Fighters
Sharpshooters
Total – 111 Points

Squad Three
Sergeant
One Vox Caster
One Missile Launcher
One Flamer
5 Guardsmen
Hardened Fighters
Sharpshooters
Total – 111 Points


Squad Four
Sergeant
1 Vox Caster
1 Missile Launcher
6 Guardsmen
Hardened Fighters
Sharpshooters
Total – 105 Points

Platoon Total – 477 Points


Armoured Fist Squad
Sergeant
One Flamer
One Vox Caster
One Chimera
- Turret Mounted Multilaser
- Hull Mounted Heavy Flamer
- Pintle Mounted Storm Bolter
- Camonetting
Hardened Fighters
Sharpshooters
Total – 202 Points

Sentinel Squadron
One Sentinel
- Armageddon Pattern (Lascannon)
Armoured Crew Compartment
Total – 70 Points

Leman Russ Battle Tank – The Vindicator
One Leman Russ
- Hull Mounted Lascannon
- Sponsons Mounted Heavy Bolters
- Pintle Mounted Heavy Stubber
- Rough Terrain Modification
Total – 182 Points

Leman Russ Battle Tank – The Sangre
One Leman Russ + 140 Points
- Hull Mounted Lascannon
- Sponsons Mounted Heavy Bolters
- Pintle Mounted Heavy Stubber
- Rough Terrain Modification
Total – 182 Points


Army Total – 1994 Points

[Colonel Grammissar Azalar]

Right, That army list there is my new Revised list, that I will be using in the future.

What do you think people?

[Deleted]

One word "sweet".

[Deleted]

Its a good balance bang from distance and good in close combat.

[Colonel Grammissar Azalar]

Thats what I was aiming for.

Get a good set of shooting, so that I can keep the fire down, and then when I need to get into close combat, make sure I am good at it. Hence why all my Normal Infantry Platoons are Sharpshooters nad Hardened Fighters

[Deleted]

A force to be recond with. well good luck with test match

[Colonel Grammissar Azalar]

I just have to hope that someone will acctully gimme a match, I might go up Local GW this Sunday have a little chatsy with them

[Deleted]

i like that list Az, very nicely put together.I can tell you have put alot of thought into it.I see you don't put any heavy weapons into your AF squad though.Do you feel that the chimera has enough weapons on it and you are using them as a fast responce team since i see they have HF doc also.

[Colonel Grammissar Azalar]

Yeah, I use the Normal Infatray Squads to pepper pot forward, while I use the Chimera to bomb it forward, support either by a Leman russ, or my Sentinel, to claim and objective

[BobaHat]

azalar said:

The Cadian 41st
Doctrines:
Special Weapons Squads
Restricted Troop - Storm Trooper Squads
Hardened Fighters
Sharpshooters


HQ Squad
One Heroic Senior Officer
- Powersword
One Master Vox Caster
One Meltagun
- 2 Veteran Upgrades
One Standard Bearer
One Medic
One Commissar
Total – 192 Points

Looks fine!

Special Weapon Support Squad
6 Guards men
- 3 Sniper Rifles
Total – 65 Points

Again... It's up to you but special weapon squads are best for suicide missions. Ratling squads are best for sniping.

Mortar Support Squad
One Mortar Squad
Total – 80 Points

Fire Support Squad
6 Guards men
3 Heavy Bolters
Sharpshooters
Total – 90 Points

Storm Troopers
Sergeant
- Powersword
8 Storm Troopers
- Flamer
- Grenade Launcher
Total – 109 Points

You should choose either grenade launchers or flamers. Not both in the same squad.


Alpha Platoon

Platoon HQ
One Junior Officer
- Powerfist
One Voxcaster
3 Guardsmen
Hardened Fighters
Sharpshooters
Total – 90 Points

You could use the points of that PF somewhere better.

Squad One
Sergeant
One Vox Caster
One Missile Launcher
One Flamer
5 Guardsmen
Hardened Fighters
Sharpshooters
Total – 111 Points

Squad Two
Sergeant
One Vox Caster
One Lascannon
One Flamer
5 Guardsmen
Hardened Fighters
Sharpshooters
Total – 121 Points

Squad Three
Sergeant
One Vox Caster
One Autocannon
One Flamer
5 Guardsmen
Hardened Fighters
Sharpshooters
Total – 111 Points

Aaarrrgghhh! Flamers and heavy weapons just don't mix! Seriously! You've even got a lascannon in there! You should really rethink this.

The rest of the list looks great! Good work! Looking forward to seeing them painted!

[Colonel Grammissar Azalar]

They ARE Painted, I was writing an Army List for models I already have.

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Pretty nice list, tell me though i have been testplaying the sharpshooters doctrine and am about to use it in a tournament, is it really worth its points? Also what role does your command squad play? It seems on the brink of a counter assault unit and a support unit because of the Master Vox, but it does not really have much hardcore CC weapons. Overall its brilliant, a very well thought out list.

[BobaHat]

azalar said:

They ARE Painted, I was writing an Army List for models I already have.

Okay but you wanted to know what we thought. I was simply commenting on the list.

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i personally think sharpshooters are great and worth it kasrkin...u can get some really dodgy rolls sometimes...i mean come on...guardsmen arent THAT bad at shooting...oh and it can work really well within rapid fire...again gets u a chance to re-roll ure hits...

back to the armylist...i find it a bit odd that u have irregular amount of troops per squad...like one squad has 6 guys and the other has like 9...can u xplain if possible azalar...just curious

[BobaHat]

He is counting 'guardsmen' as simply being lasgun troopers. Take this squad for example:

Squad Four
Sergeant
1 Vox Caster
1 Missile Launcher
6 Guardsmen
Hardened Fighters
Sharpshooters

Here he has 1x sergeant, 1x vox-caster guy, 1x missile launcher team (2 guardsmen) and 6x guardsmen with lasguns. That is 10x guys in all.

[Colonel Grammissar Azalar]

My command squad is a support role, I keep the Meltagun in case they drive a Tank too close to my general.

The Sharpshooters, Tested it yesterday, Well worth it, Took down 3/4 of an Imperial Guard Traitor army.

[Warmaster Stabwhiskers]

Woah...thats alot of traitorous guard

[Colonel Grammissar Azalar]

Yep. it is, it was a good battle, he was like "What the hell, you wasted my army"
I still had about 1.2K left on the table and he had about 500Points

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hey thnx bobahat....srry bout the confusion...hehehe...yay! so sharpshooters do wonders huh? hehehe good job in the game azalar

[majorjav]

Nice job Az!!
Sharpshooters do worth its points, I do use it with effectiveness!!! re rolling 1s is very good and can change a shooting phase from bad to very killing (for the opponent, yeah!!)

[Colonel Grammissar Azalar]

Yep. Thats why I took it on my Squads, definatly worth the point value of it.

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hey,this is my first post on this here guard forum, firstly i have a question, does anybody have the white dwarf which has the high command rules in them? if you do can you please scan them or something and pm me asking for my email adress, and 2ndly my guard army list
command platoon
H.S.O(70)
comms operator(5)master vox(20)
two veteran(12)standard bearer(5)the hellhammer standard(20)
medic(5)meltagun(10)
H.S.O is equipped with carapace armour(5)refractor field(15)
macharian cross(20)medallion crimson(15) 202

TWO SUPPORT UNITS
hq support alpha(35)3 missle launchers(60)
hq support beta(35)3 lascannons(75) 205

ATTACHED commissar
commissar bretvist(40)powerfist(20) carapace armour(5)refractor field(15)
medallion crimson(15) 95

platoon 1
platoon hq
Junior officer(40)plasma pistol(10)
medic(5) two meltaguns(20)plasmagun(10) 85

ATTACHED COMMISSAR
commissar sinderman(40)
plasma pistol(10)
power axe(5)carapace armour(5)
refractor field(15)
medallion crimson(15)

platoon 1
all 5 squads: 10 guardsmen(60)
heavy bolter team(10)
grenade launcher(8)
comms operator(5)415

platoon 1 sabre squadren
armoured fist unit(60)
flamer(6)
comms operator(5)
vet.sgt(6)
CHIMERA(70)multilaser(10) heavy bolter(hull)(5)
pintle heavy stubber(12) 174

hellhound(115)

10 storm troopers(100)vox operator(5)2 plasmaguns(20)125

leman russ battle tank(140)
lascannon(hull)(15)
heavybolters(sponsons)(10)165

leman russ demolisher(150)
lascannon(15)
plasmacannons(sponsons)(20)185

basilisk(100)

baneblade(634) 2590
just thought you guys would like a look at what i actually have in my guard army, im also in the process of adding 6 cadian marksmen(ratling snipers) which ive converted out of cadians and plastic scout sniper rifles, ill post pictures when ever there done which should be soon oh yeah anyone HIGH COMMAND RULES PLEASE