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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2007 15:32:57 GMT -5
Hey guys. Im gunna be honest with you, brutally honest, I dont play guard yet, and this is all speculative. I am a Blood Angels/'Nid player, but I am looking to get myself an armoured company.
In light of the cost of an armoured company, I am intending to get my list fairly correct before I commit to buying anything. So, I bring you a few lists, for you to pick apart/urinate on, in order to give me some level of direction. As a largly assault based commander so far, this is all very different to me. Anyways...
List Alpha-Lotsa Russes.
HQ
Leman Russ-LC / Hbs-275
Elites
Leman Russ-All Hbs-230
Troops
Leman Russ-All Hbs-165 Leman Russ-All Hbs-165 Leman Russ-All Hbs-165
List Beta
Commander Leman russ heavy bolters,-255
Troops
2x Leman russ-All heavy bolters-310pts Fast attack
Heavy Support 3x Basilisk, indirect fire-375pts
Total-940pts
List Gamma
Are my two so far off that you guys have a completely different list I might wanna use?
Anyways, thanks in advance, please help me!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2007 12:49:33 GMT -5
looks like $h@t
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2007 6:32:09 GMT -5
Well your polite. Nice of you to help a newer player. Real fornicateing constructive.
It realy does alot for the hobby when the likes of you stamp on newcomers when they ask for help.
I think I will stick to my own fornicateing forums, wankshaft. You guys just lost yourself a willing member of the forums.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2007 7:28:37 GMT -5
Ok guys calm down, i for one doesn't think its like that at all. Liltom, im sure turtleboy will be in here soon, seeing that he is an armoured comapny player, i think. However here is my view on things. i've been dying to get one too mind you, now that apocalypse is out, it is possible to buy tanks at cheaper costs. keep the heavy bolters on the elite russ, this is due to its Balistic skill which has greater potential to kill units should you be afraid to use your battle cannon
Ok liltom i wouldnt say i'm giving you criticism, but im offering you something else. I would rather you not add sponsoon heavy bolters for your russes, but rather to equip them with much needed wargear, primary ones being extra armour and rough terrain modification. This will greatly increase the tanks felxibility in battle, being able to move in and out of terrain more effectively and to survive stunned attacks from anti-tank weapons. Since you can only fire one ordnance weapon form your tank, i think that sponsoon heavy bolters would be close to useless. except on HQ's or elites, simply due to the balisitc skill advantage.
hope that helps, cheers
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2007 7:58:39 GMT -5
I have to say, too spite your advice, HB's are staying. If a tank suffers a weapon destroyed result without them, it is a paperweight. With them, it packs a large punch all the same. Extra armour and rough terrain modification dont seem so useful to me in all honesty, and certainly less so that HB's. I am not willing to have one less tank in the army for them, as I need as many as possible.
Still, I am doubting coming back here if its the norm on these forums for new player to get such bollocks from members when they need help.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2007 22:41:30 GMT -5
ah well, least i tried then mate, go with what you wish is right and good luck
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2007 2:59:50 GMT -5
If your still around to see this lilton i think this is an excellant list. I play armoured company and a solid core of standard 'Russes always wins the day. My only suggestion is to to upgrade the HQ 'Russ to an Ace (command tank with higher BS).
Hope you do stay on the forum, we really appreciate all new members.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2007 3:35:13 GMT -5
Eesh, 58octo you heard of contructive criticism or what? Don't know what that guy's deal is. Anyway, welcome to the board liltom, I've never seen such a nutsty response to a first post on here >:\ On topic.. not sure how much help I could give about an A.C.... i've never gotten my head around the idea really, I'm much more into lots of infantry. But from what I can surmise it's a good list, though I agree with trooper that you may want to consider rough terrain mods, for a few tanks at least(your vanguard ones, preferably). They're dirt cheap and I can forsee your enemies fleeing into difficult ground to avoid you. Stuff like weapon choice is largely up to taste IMO, Heavy bolters are great and with that much ordanance I don't think lascannons are entirely necessary. So thats my 2c, again welcome :]
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2007 7:47:35 GMT -5
Ok, I think I will go with the cutting of the lascannon. I will consider rough terrain mods and upgrading the commander to ace.
Thanks for the help guys, I think I will stick around!
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