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Post by mccaptain on Nov 28, 2007 1:07:03 GMT -5
I'm new to the Imperial Guard and could use a few pointers from you veteran players. Feel free to shoot holes in this roster. I'd rather you do it than xeno scum on the battlefield.
Doctrines: Storm Troopers, Grenadiers, Mechanized, Close Order Drill
* All Chimeras are armed with turret Multi-lasers and hull mounted Heavy Bolters
Army Points: 2000 even
Heavy Support:
Leman Russ Battle Tank
-Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter: 145
Leman Russ Battle Tank
-Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter: 145
Leman Russ Demolisher
-Hull Mounted Lascannon
-Sponson Plasma Cannons: 185
HQ:
Junior Officer w/HI, PW, BP
-Four Guardsmen w/Meltaguns
-Chimera: 196
Mortar Support Squad
-Chimera: 165
Troop:
Command Squad
-Junior Officer
-Four Guardsmen w/Grenade Launchers
-Chimera: 157
Platoon Squad x10guardsmen
-Flamer Thrower
-Chimera: 151
Platoon Squad x10guardsmen
-Flamer Thrower
-Chimera: 151
Platoon Squad x10guardsmen
-Chimera: 145
Grenadiers
-Meltagun x2
-Chimera: 205
Grenadiers
-Meltagun x2
-Chimera 205
Elites:
Storm Troopers x5
-2 Meltaguns
-Deep Strike 75
Storm Troopers x5
-2 Meltaguns
-Deep Strike 75
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2007 3:03:06 GMT -5
um, i don't think you can have to alternate organizations, if you have grenadiers, no point in storm troopers, seeing as you have mechanized they can't DS or infiltrate anyway,
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Post by mccaptain on Nov 29, 2007 3:14:23 GMT -5
I'm not sure that's true, but please correct me if I'm wrong. I didn't read anywhere that you couldn't take mechanized and grenadiers. Also, the mechanized rule applies only to Guard Infantry. Under the definition of Guard Infantry on the previous page, stormtroopers are exempt, as well as ratlings, ogryns, and just to be fair, conscripts.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2007 4:22:25 GMT -5
hmm, sounds kinda sketchy, but, hmm, I'm not sure, I think that Kasrkins count as infantry, so, hmm, ask someone else, i started last month, so I'm not all that sure
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2007 12:37:50 GMT -5
Rules wise.. it works.. you can have grenadiers and storm troopers alongside the mechanized doctrine.. no problems there.. quite nice as well actually.. Play wise.. you dont have enough punch in the army.. melta guns are good but need to get within range.. chimeras are cool but they will begin to get in your way.. and the first one will block the other ones.. from fire and from being able to pass once blown up.. If you are going to deep strike the storm troopers I suggest plasma.. more fun  And if you can swing it.. go for veterens instead.. they can shoot better.. can infiltrate and with drop troops can also deep strike.. just they dont get the 4+ armor save thats all but whatever.. Also the mortors wont help too much in this army I would think.. if it were heavy mortors ( FW models ) then ok.. cause they can take out basilisks and other vehicles with indirect fire.. but to clear out infantry? Not worth it in my opinion.. your chimeras will have a better chance at doing that.. get a pack of ratling snipers.. they will pin more often than mortors will.. Would be an interesting list to play with though.. but I cant see it having too much staying power for you to hang onto for too long.. Maybe if you can get a few hell hounds into the mix or sentinals to deep strike then you might see this list do very well.. Cheers Gris |
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Post by mccaptain on Dec 5, 2007 7:50:34 GMT -5
Gris: I was thinking about dropping one of the deep strike teams, and the mortar team w/ attached Chimera. Then picking up several Sents. w/ lascannons. and possibly a hellhound. Think that would punch up the firepower enough?
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Post by telecustom on Dec 5, 2007 13:28:54 GMT -5
As we where taking before, Sentinals pack a great punch.
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Post by mccaptain on Dec 5, 2007 16:37:06 GMT -5
I figured up the points during General Biology today (figured I would do something useful) and this is what I got.
Drop the second deep strike squad.
Drop the mortar squad and chimera.
Swap out all of the meltaguns/nade launchers in the command squads and put in 4 flamers each
Pick up a hellhound
Pick up three Sents w/ lascannons
I would also have to drop 1 meltagun out of each of the two full strength Grenadier squads
This comes out to 2pts shy of 2000
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Post by mccaptain on Dec 5, 2007 16:41:36 GMT -5
New thought! What if I also just dropped the grenadier doctrine. Maxed out my elite option with Stormtroopers. 3 full squads. Deep strike them all and ditch the Chimeras. That way I could add some commissars w/power fists and another hellhound. My most common opposition will be tau and being able to drop in that many stormies should be able to by my tanks some time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2007 17:13:35 GMT -5
Keep drop units, and grenaiders.. just dump the normals  I dont use them myself anymore.. pack them full of special weapons.. keep the chimeras.. but work on 2 or 3 units in troops with chimeras, then load in the drop units, hellhounds, and sentinals.. but I usually pack my sentinals with multilasers or autocannons and go rear armor hunting on everything, or just transport hunting.. remember.. you can deep strike them with the doctrine drop troops.. Just my thoughs.. this army style works wonders for me.. pack lots of plasma if you are facing marines.. you would be surprised how effective they are againest them.. |
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Post by mccaptain on Dec 5, 2007 18:22:49 GMT -5
Heres a new list I came up with. I wrote this up before your most recent post (grisnik). How's it look?
HQ:
Heroic Senior Officer
-Iron Will
-Power Sword/ bolt pistol
-Trademark item
-4 Flamers
-Commissar
-Power Fist w/ BP
-Psyker
-HI and Force Weapon w/BP
-Chimera w/smoke: 327
Troop:
Junior Officer
-Iron Will
-Commissar Power Fist/BP 61
-Four Guardsmen w/Flamer
-Chimera: 215
Platoon Squad x10guardsmen
-Flamer Thrower
-Chimera: 151
Platoon Squad x10guardsmen
-Flamer Thrower
-Chimera: 151
Armored Fist Squad x10guardsmen
-Flame Thrower
-Chimera: 151
Heavy Support:
Leman Russ Battle Tank
-Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter: 145
Leman Russ Battle Tank
-Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter: 145
Leman Russ Demolisher
-Hull Mounted Lascannon
-Sponson Plasma Cannons
-Track Guards: 195
Elite:
Storm Troopers x10
-Meltagun
-DS: 120
Storm Troopers x10
-Meltagun
-DS: 120
Fast Attack:
Hellhound: 115
3 Sentinels 165
-x3 Lascannon
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Post by mccaptain on Dec 5, 2007 18:26:14 GMT -5
Doctrines:
Mechanized, Sanctioned Psykers, Storm Troopers, Iron Will, Close Order Drill
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2007 6:56:49 GMT -5
hmmm...can i suggest u replace those meltas on the storm troopers with plasma guns? A pack of sentinels as well as 2 LR and a basilisk is a match made in heaven against any enemy armour on the field. Then again you're up against tau mainly so i guess against crisis suits they'l do find....ok lol nevermind nice list!
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And if you can swing it.. go for veterens instead.. they can shoot better.. can infiltrate and with drop troops can also deep strike.. just they dont get the 4+ armor save thats all but whatever.. 
I dont use them myself anymore.. pack them full of special weapons.. keep the chimeras.. but work on 2 or 3 units in troops with chimeras, then load in the drop units, hellhounds, and sentinals.. but I usually pack my sentinals with multilasers or autocannons and go rear armor hunting on everything, or just transport hunting.. remember.. you can deep strike them with the doctrine drop troops..