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Post by knight (M.I.A) on May 13, 2007 4:10:58 GMT -5
Well I don't know what your overzealous regiment would do sammy. But with a bit of bad luck they would die. Because unlike your troops the clones are more or less fearless and some sort of little Space Marines
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2007 5:36:57 GMT -5
hahaha...no emotion
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on May 13, 2007 8:30:55 GMT -5
Yes, If you give a Troop Emotion, he can feel guilt at killing a Child or a woman who has been using in a Chaotic Takeover, You Remove the emotion, He will slaughter that Trooper and burn the body.
You give a Tank Drive Emotion, He wont drive over imperial Citzens even under orders. You remove the emotion, he will use all at his disposal to finish his Job.
Therefor, A Trooper without Emotion is a Hard Worker.
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Post by sammy1979 on May 13, 2007 16:04:53 GMT -5
thats a very intresting concept the no emotion thing but does that not mean there fighting spirit is non exsistant the bit of drive that makes a man go "no i wont take it, no more" and achieve the impossible after all they say that fear can drive a person on, hero's having conquered fear and all that. where as if they cant feal fear or have emotion they wont have that extra bit of drive, its a great concept, but for me i would still like my troops to be able to be heros and for that emotion is required. so i recon i would haved to launch my regiment against yours as i just dont think my colonels cardinal could stand the afriels exsistance
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on May 13, 2007 16:54:26 GMT -5
Well Afriels are actually a special sort of clones. They use the genetic information of the greatest heros of the Empire (rumors say that the greatest DNA sample is from Solar Macharius himself). They have superior abilities, are brilliant tacticians and fighters, but unfortunatly they draw the attention of the enemy and bad luck more then light draws insects. All regiments that contained Afriels had really good beginnings in the campaigns they were fighting in, but after some time the bad luck turned against them and the complete regiment was wiped out. As the Inquisition and some other authorities frown upon these heretic process, they ppl doing this have gone into hiding and it's rumored that they continue their researches somewhere hidden. (that was roughly the fluff given by GW in Chapter Approved)
House Tarrian is a mighty house on Elyria and it controls most of the planets economy and as they control the only habitable moon of Elyria as well they control the food production as about 75% of Elyria's food are produced on this (still nameless) moon. This advantage gave House Tarrian a nearly indefinite amount of power on the planet itself, but also helpd them accumulate a nearly infinite amount of money as well. Eventually some of the researchers that created the Afriels turned to High Lord Valoris Tarrian. The High Lord was really interested in this offer and promised the scientists his help if they would create an army for him. A secret laboratory on the moon was created and soon after the lab was finished the scientists started their work. Valoris Tarrian wasn't statisfied with having a private army of cloned soldiers. He wanted more. So he started bribing a lot of people and he could get his hand of some toys of the Imperial Guard. Namely some Leman Russ MBTs in the most basic version and some heavily armoured, AT-Sentinals armed with the Armageddon-Pattern. In the end his private army was nearly as mighty as about half of the local (really weak due to the terrain specifications and retrictions of Elyria) PDF forces. When the civil war started on Elyria the Chaos Cultists killed all High Lords that hadn't joined them and Valoris was one of them. When these new reached his daughter on Elyria's moon she was enraged and decided to mobilise the Tarrian army to avenge her fathers death and cleanse her beloved homeworld Elyria. When the war was over the Adeptus Mechanicus seized control over Elyria as they had discovered huge deposits of ore and other rare materials on the planet. Only House Tarrian had survived the civil war but had to agree the "occupation" of the Ad. Mech. They kept the moon and became the sole supplier of Elyria with food. The PDF regiments became part of the Imperial Guard and even the Tarrian army was drafted into guard duty. Unknown to nearly everybody that most of the 14. Elyria are Afriel Strain troopers. Even the Inquisition still has no clue of what kind of force is fighting for the Empire of Man and where these new Afriels are created.
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Post by Woz on May 13, 2007 17:29:17 GMT -5
I dont belive a normal human can carry a machinegun in one hand and fire it. Its not designed to be used in one hand. Have you never seen Rambo? I think that any normal human would have trouble picking up a bolter let alone fire it. I mean just look at it, it's a huge lump of metal thats nearly the size of a mans body. But then this is just a game.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2007 18:32:28 GMT -5
I think I have mensioned Rambo in my messages And yes I know its a game Just think its silly to have space marines if an imperial guardsman can wield the bolter as well as a space marine Leave the heavy duty stuff to Space marines. Let em shine with wielding bolters in one hand. They are the men to do it. As a normal human I would hold my gun with two hands and aim at my target, making sur eI dont miss, as it will mean my death if I do miss. Yours Truly Vash
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Post by Woz on May 13, 2007 18:57:52 GMT -5
Bolters may be made with some futuristic material that's extremely tough but very light, like carbon firbre. Remember that in 40k Bolters are made with forgotton technology which is why they're too rare to give to mere grunts.
For all we know a child could pick up it up one handed.
A friend of my was working on a display for the Honda F1 team and he told me that one guy can pick up the entire engine (thats a 3Litre V10). Yet I struugled to lift just the top block off my VW.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2007 19:20:02 GMT -5
Okey, so the laws of physics will come at hand here. The recoil will be extreem if you dont have some kind of weight on the gun But nevermind, I'll give up. Seems like I am fighting alot of people who belive bolters are plastic toys of death Lets drop this and get on topic. Lost track of what this topic is about. Yours Truly Vash
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2007 21:04:06 GMT -5
Whats wrong with going off topic ;D? Anyways, i like your model, it's very well done, but are you going to add some skin or is she going to stay albino ?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2007 2:51:01 GMT -5
The recoil will be extreem if you dont have some kind of weight on the gun Yours Truly Vash you got that right...its mass reactive detonator cap needs to go somewhere...and at such a huge force too....ok im done with the whole bolter one hand thing...hows the rest of squad violet?
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on May 14, 2007 5:01:44 GMT -5
All Afriels are for some unknown reason albinos. And btw I prime my minis black, so the skin is already painted (Space Wolves Grey + Skull White drybrushing)
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2007 7:00:29 GMT -5
mebe they dont have melanin in their skin...scientists prob didnt bother with skin tone...hair colour and such...just to build a tough fighting soldier
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Post by lordcastellenjon on May 14, 2007 15:49:15 GMT -5
true its not like they will get a chance to retier from the gaurd is it trooper as all gauds men die before they get the chance
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