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Post by knight (M.I.A) on May 10, 2007 15:09:27 GMT -5
Well here are some pics of my first Afriel Strain trooper. For those who read the army list it's the sergeant of Squad Violet. I still need to finish the grenade in the right hand, the beret needs one or two more layers of colour, and the shoulder pad with the squad marking needs some work again, as I'm not statisfied with the edges and the number. Well and the base still has to be done...
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Post by Woz on May 10, 2007 16:15:33 GMT -5
He needs a hair cut. (joke)
Looks good so far
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on May 10, 2007 16:26:17 GMT -5
Take a look at the face he is a she But I decided against modelling a bigger bust. Because, hey what do you expect from a clone that was created only for combat purposes
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Post by Woz on May 10, 2007 16:57:15 GMT -5
he/she that's no excuse, get that mop sorted.
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on May 10, 2007 17:27:13 GMT -5
Getting that mob sorted would give me a serious problem, as there is a highly cut woodelf head below all that "fur" and you would see too much of cut plastic... And she isn't part of any official Imperial Guard regiment fluffwise
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2007 21:59:26 GMT -5
nice, the beret gives the sergeant a unique touch...u gna give all ure guys berets?
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on May 12, 2007 4:20:48 GMT -5
Not all. Just some of the sergeants will get berets. But most of the soldiers will be albinos. Only the officers, their staffs, grenadiers and the hw-squads
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2007 5:58:32 GMT -5
Really well done mini Knight.I just keep wondering abut how strong a person has to be to carry a gun like that let alone fire it.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2007 6:37:10 GMT -5
Maybe she is only holding it like that while she is tossing away the grenade. Thats how I did when I did my military service.
Yours Truly
Vash
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on May 12, 2007 9:41:44 GMT -5
Yup. She is just holding it that way because she is throwing a grenade. Firing a boltgun one handed is most likely impossible unless you have a bionic arm and shoulder
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on May 12, 2007 9:46:49 GMT -5
Or your a space marine, Considering they are Genetically modfied, They could be Strenghtly enhanced, so they would be able to hold a Heavy Bolter in one hand.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2007 10:26:06 GMT -5
And you shall hold your boltgun with both hands, as gives an one hell of a kick back.- Roboute Guilliman - Or something like that. Its noted in the codex Space Marines somewhere. A space Marine holds the boldgun with two hands, as a normal space marine can handle it in one hand. The Precision will go down drastically and thus makeing the Space Marines rule (or try to accomplish)"One shot, one kill" totaly worthless. So for the record, I really hate when Imperial guards holds a bolter in one hand and shots with it (thinking of the Catachan liuetenant...). Also... the special character Commisar Yarrik... not enough that he has a herretical weapon on his right arm, he also wields a storm bolter! in one hand. To give an example how powerfull a bolter is... A boltgun can tear holes in a tank... The size of this gun is similar to a Light Machinegun. And how many today can wield a light machine gun in one hand? Oh well I forgot... Rambo can... he wields a M60 machinegun in his movies. If some still think its possitble. Once your in the military, try shooting with a rifle in one hand. Yours Truly Vash
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on May 12, 2007 10:43:51 GMT -5
All Grey Knights fire their storm bolters with one hand and all terminators fire their storm bolters, assault cannons and heavy flamers one handed as well. And not to forget the Death Guard who got it thaught by Mortarion how to fire their boltguns one handed and absorbing the recoil with their ill and deformed bodies.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2007 10:55:31 GMT -5
Yes but all these are specialized trained Space Marines. The elite of the elite. Note that I mensioned that normal space Marine can handle the boltgun in one hand, but at a cost of precision.
None of the above are normal space marines. Also, the new edition of grey knights dont carry their stormbolters normally. they are attached to their arm. Thus, the absorbartion of recoil os devided along the arm, instead of just the hands wrist.
Yours Truly
Vash
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on May 12, 2007 11:18:32 GMT -5
Vash, I fired a number 8 Rifle, One handed, I have fired the SA80 A2 One handed, I have fired the Lightweight Support Weapon one handed.
Also, Commissar Yarrick does not have a Heretical weapon as such, seing as it counts as a Power Weapon, and where did power weapons come from, The Imperial Guard. Also he does it for the Fear Factor.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2007 11:48:34 GMT -5
Well, can you fire the rifles with great precision ? I am not attacking anyone here. I am just saying my thoughts about bolters in one hand. The weapon Yarrik has is from a Ork Warboss (if I am not wrong), and for me thats herritical Counts as, and what it truly is is not the same thing. I'll send my Sisters of Battle to purge him any day, for attaching Xeno technology on him self:D And most of my hate towards Yarrick comes from a power gamer from my past who used him freaklently. For the record... I dont think Orks go the the local Imperial Guard store to buy their power claws.... "OY! I'll have un of those nasty lookin' powah claws... an' umm... ye skull oughta be nice too mate!" Yours Truly Vash
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on May 12, 2007 11:56:26 GMT -5
The LSW is a Lightweight Support Weapon, It is in all Respects a machine gun.
Also, The Orc Warboss took the Idea for the Powerclaw of an Imperial Office, with a Power Fist. They also Scavanged the Technology from Imperial Worlds. Therefor, It is Imperial.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2007 12:06:37 GMT -5
The LSW is a Lightweight Support Weapon, It is in all Respects a machine gun. Also, The Orc Warboss took the Idea for the Powerclaw of an Imperial Office, with a Power Fist. They also Scavanged the Technology from Imperial Worlds. Therefor, It is Imperial. But still, do prefer using it with one hand or two? (The machinegun that is)(I also saw that it was a Machinegun sorry.. edited away my sentance about that) Ha ha, so, your saying that its okey to use a weapon, as long as the imperial guard thought of it first Well then, mutated weapons from Chaos, here I come No I understand what your saying, but these are my thoughts about it all. I dont belive a normal human can carry a machinegun in one hand and fire it. Its not designed to be used in one hand. And I still think its wrong that Yarrick wields a power claw But noone dares take it away from him Yours Truly Vash
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on May 12, 2007 12:26:59 GMT -5
No one dares take it away, due to the fear factor for on it the Orcs.
With his Power Claw, his Storm Bolter, and his Bale Eye, plus his Refactor Sheild, he seems impossible to kill to the orcs, If you read his backstory, you would see why even as a Commissar, taking a Weapon from and Orc and playing it on his severed Arm, which the Claw Severed, he is allowed to live.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2007 12:36:44 GMT -5
Well true that I would still hunt him down And that would be a perfect reason for me if I meet an IG army with Yarrick. I am there to hunt him down I allways try to have a reason why I fight an opponent. Yours Truly Vash
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on May 12, 2007 13:14:30 GMT -5
And if you were facing an army with yarrick, your army would be, retrospetivally, heretical.
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on May 12, 2007 16:26:54 GMT -5
Come on. Leave Yarrik out of this. Don't add more heretics to this. There are already enough in my army. I mean I got 30 Afriel Strain troopers. They're clones and clones are the purest heretic stuff you can get on the Imperial side
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on May 12, 2007 17:07:32 GMT -5
-Points out Yarrick is not Heretical- and if one more person talks about the fine imperial commissar like that again, -taps the bolt pistol-
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Post by sammy1979 on May 12, 2007 17:13:30 GMT -5
not to jump on the band wagon or anything but it is fully possible to fire a machine gun one handed it just wont be very acurate in truth the recoil is in relationship to calibre/charge qty and obturation its effected by newtons law of oposing force. however i've read various methods on the operation of a bolter from discriptions of rocket powered shells to just a large recoil fired machinegun all ov various calibres, so it all depends which operation method is correct as to its one handed firing caperbilities sorry to be a bore but weapon operation and munitions are some what of a forte of mine and even made up projectile sytems have to use the same physical charcteristics. any way the models themselves look cool though im not sure what my over pious/zealous regiment would make of them?
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on May 12, 2007 17:40:46 GMT -5
its possible, but theres no Accuracy.
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