Out of practice, and wondering....

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Questions:
Psykers.
The codex say that one power is randomly selected... It doesn't say when. Is it evry turn? At the start of battle? before the start of battle?
Wargear.
If my officer comes with a laspistol, and i get him a plasma pistol, and show both on the model, can i fire both in the shooting phase, and do they count as 2 close combat weapons for h2h?
Rough riders.
If you give them hunting lances, they replace the other weapons, and are one-use weapons. So after they've fought one round of h2h, they are pretty much like regular guardsmen... with no h2h weapons... correct? Now i'm not arguing about the lances. What i'd like clarified is that they don't have ANY weapons after the first round. not even a pistol to shoot somebody with?
Morale:
Say you take out 25% or greater of the enemy's squads current strength, so they have to check for morale. When do they test morale from shooting? I couldn't get a clear answer from the rule book, so we are currently doing at the start of the controlling player's turn, at the movement phase, because we figured, hey, they might run, and that's movement... because it's been so long since i played 2nd ed, it seems silly to me for troops to check for morale in the enemies shooting phase (ie just after they got shot up, otherwise they can move back out of range of any of my follow up fire)
And as for assualts, when someone loses an assault (less wounds caused, that i remember.. sometimes) which happens all the time against a chaplain in termy armour, and his 9 termy honour guard...I forget when we usually test... it's not usually an issue, since they're usually all dead, apart from occasionally ogryns, and the occasional officer. So i guess i test after we removed casualties. Is that right? before the enemy consilidates? (usually they all surround the surviving officer, and try to touch another unit to stay locked, and un-shootable)
Deployment.
it says place one unit each side, then the opposition places a unit of their own, and back and forth etc.
What is a unit? Is it an entire troops selcection (ie for me, the platoon hq and the inf sqaud he's commanding?) or is it the command squad only, followed next rotation by the inf squad, or as another example, would i place the hq command squad and all supporting anti tank and anti personnel squads at the same time, or squad by squad?

Thanks

[Turtleboy(AWOL)]

Apr 15, 2008 17:59:13 GMT -5 @treadheadcommander said:

Questions:
Psykers.
The codex say that one power is randomly selected... It doesn't say when. Is it evry turn? At the start of battle? before the start of battle?

I've always just done at the beginning of the battle and called it good.

Wargear.
If my officer comes with a laspistol, and i get him a plasma pistol, and show both on the model, can i fire both in the shooting phase, and do they count as 2 close combat weapons for h2h?

you can fire either or, but not both - sucky but true

Rough riders.
If you give them hunting lances, they replace the other weapons, and are one-use weapons. So after they've fought one round of h2h, they are pretty much like regular guardsmen... with no h2h weapons... correct? Now i'm not arguing about the lances. What i'd like clarified is that they don't have ANY weapons after the first round. not even a pistol to shoot somebody with?

if you look carefully it says they replace either their laspistol or their chainsword to get the lance, not both. I had to re-read this one too when I was looking at roughriders.

Morale:
Say you take out 25% or greater of the enemy's squads current strength, so they have to check for morale. When do they test morale from shooting? I couldn't get a clear answer from the rule book, so we are currently doing at the start of the controlling player's turn, at the movement phase, because we figured, hey, they might run, and that's movement... because it's been so long since i played 2nd ed, it seems silly to me for troops to check for morale in the enemies shooting phase (ie just after they got shot up, otherwise they can move back out of range of any of my follow up fire)

pinning checks occur immediately after the unit sustains a casualty, general morale tests from shooting casualties occur at the end of the shooting phase. the best way to do it is "hey, are you done shooting at this unit?" "yes" "ok I'm rolling morale for them now then."

And as for assualts, when someone loses an assault (less wounds caused, that i remember.. sometimes) which happens all the time against a chaplain in termy armour, and his 9 termy honour guard...I forget when we usually test... it's not usually an issue, since they're usually all dead, apart from occasionally ogryns, and the occasional officer. So i guess i test after we removed casualties. Is that right? before the enemy consilidates? (usually they all surround the surviving officer, and try to touch another unit to stay locked, and un-shootable)

both sides kick eachother's butts in assault. after all the buttkicking is done, the losing side tests morale for each squad of his involved in the losing combat. if a squad is no longer in base to base contact, then it can run away without fear of being swept. if your dudes are still in base to base and you fail, you may be swept. if the you fall back away from the enemy they may 3" consolidate. if the enemy kills you to a man, they may make a 1d6" massacre move. if you remain locked, both sides (starting with whoevers turn it is) piles in 6" in an attempt to better engage the unit(s) they are already in combat with.

this is my understanding of it.

Deployment.
it says place one unit each side, then the opposition places a unit of their own, and back and forth etc.
What is a unit? Is it an entire troops selcection (ie for me, the platoon hq and the inf sqaud he's commanding?) or is it the command squad only, followed next rotation by the inf squad, or as another example, would i place the hq command squad and all supporting anti tank and anti personnel squads at the same time, or squad by squad?

you're placing whole platoons, so if you have a 55 man platoon, then you may want to tell your friend to go get something to eat and drink while you set stuff down.

alternately, I like to place my heavy weapon in each squad and perhaps the special weapon too then tell my friend 'go ahead; this is where my squads are going to go, I'll work on placing all the lasgun dudes while you drop your next choice.' that typically works well too.

Thanks

anytime!

[acolyte]

you can fire either or, but not both - sucky but true

Unless you are a monstrous creature

[knight (M.I.A)]

Guard officers normally aren't monsterous creature even if some commanders may kick their troops rear like a monstereous creature.....