armored fist, LR, or hadened vets?

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I'm wanting some expert advice.

I am bringing my guard army up to 4K points (for APoc and to match my SM army in points)

It is primarily infantry with a LR and a demolisher with some sentinals as my current vehicles

what I am going to do is buy another basic LR and a baneblade.

now my question is do I get a 3rd basic Russ give him flamers and dozer blade to give support to assults. (and more armor thats always good). I do like armor so this does appeal to me.

or a armored fist squad wich is to give reinforcments to my lines were more fighting were firepower is needed. or be the infantry support to my armor

or (what I am leaning twords just a bit more over the LR) a squad of hardened vets in a chimera. the chimera would take the troops to the most dangerous assult troops headed my way. and provide firepower there. the vets would get out with three flamers, 3 shotguns, 3laspistol and CC weapon the srg laspistol and power weapon. shoot and assult the threat (bound to die but give my troops another round of shooting

what advice do you have

[angelusmortis]

Well, personally I would recommend start fleshing out formations if your planning on Apocalypse. Instead of the LR and Basilisk, I would get 2 more LR so you can have an "Emperors Fist" Squadron. After that, I would then go with either 2 more Demolishers or if your set on Basilisks (a very good choice for Apoc) go with 3 Basilisks. You list will be more effective you start thinking about formations, rather than peicemeal.

Edit: My fingers just refuse to work this early in the morning.

[sammy1979]

1 chim on its own is just waiting to be blasted tin, if its for apocalypse i recommend lots of chims so some survive to get up to the enemy, but for normal games have you considered the all purpose hellhound it would give you lots of flaming support, if you play against horde armies and is relativly tough enough to survive average attacks, but if that isnt your bag i would go for lemun russ's as angelmortis says, bassies are good but need protecting alot (i myself have 6 supporting bassies but end up protecting them with a 3rd of my availble troops) but not to labour the point take a long look @ hellhounds!

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umm were did I say basilisk?

I said baneblade

[angelusmortis]

I swear I read Basilisk, but its irrelevant anyways. Seeing as you will have 2 LR and a Baneblade, my point still is you should take a third LR so as to fill out the formation. Just FYI, in case you dont already know, you cant mix and match LR and Demolishers in the formation. Its either 3x LR or 3x Demolishers. Thats why I recommend the LR as it would be a smaller investment.

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you've given me more to think about

I did know you can't combine LR and demolishers for formations.

I guess one thing that was pullign me twords vet in chimera was normal games as well something to use to chamnge things up a bit.

(or I could try to tweak points and get both

thanks

[angelusmortis]

Vets in a Chimera is a good deal, but since you said you were planning on Apoc I would go with the formations first, then later on you can add the vets. I think that would be the most effecient way to do it.

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ok I got my two tanks...the added bonus is I can now also make a 1500 point Armored company

[Deleted]

Get 2 more baneblades. I fielded the baneblade company a few times and the crazy death they put out was amazing.