Firing out of a Chimera

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If i have a chimera and i put a unit inside one guardsmen can fire a weapon from the top hatch. I have read through the rule book and It doesn't really give a limitation on the weapons that are useable.

In theory, could I put an Autocannon/rocket/heavy bolter/lascannon in the squad and fire the it from the chimera top hatch? Given that it doesn't move.

The chimera shows little double doors over the troop compartment so in theory a guardsmen could use those to shoot from.

i was wondering because that would boost my Chimera's firepower and some of my armored fist already have heavy weapons.

[chromepip]

you can fire from the top but the biggest issue is that you can't move and fire that weapon, and if you do it makes the vehicle open topped. and we all know what happens to open topped vehicles.

The good news is that you can fire the six lasguns on the hull without counting as open topped.

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If i move i can't fire the heavy weapon.

But if I don't then i can fire it.

Most things I shoot at are normally in-front of my tank so the hull lasguns can't hit it.

Can I move and fire a special weapon like a plasma gun? If yes, would it be at half range because the vehicle counts as moving?

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you can fire a special weapon out of the top hatch too, but if the chimera move, then you treat it as the troop moved. For example: a rapid fire weapon may fire once up to the max distance only if the transport hasn't moved, or 12" if it has.

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Great! That is all I wanted to know!

[chromepip]

About the Lasguns,

I don't actually think they are limited to firing to the side. They are listed as fire points. Lots of weapons are listed as having 360 or 180, 90 degrees of arc fire. But just like a regular open topped vehicle, for instance an ork trukk, i do not think that it is limited by the hull.

If you get a chance to read the errata for 5th, they are listed as fire points, with no direction. so in theory, unless i am wrong, you can fire in any direction using hte lasguns, even forward.

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Hmmm.... good point, In 4th, the entry was general enough to not have a facing on the fire ports... But as I flip through the handy-dandy 5th rulebook...

Range and LOS are taken directly from the fire port. Since there is a big push in 5th for Real LOS, then, it looks like the chimeras fireports may only fire to their respective flank.

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And, I was just reading the rules for firing out of vehicles, i guess i skipped over this part. when you fire out of a vehicle the weapons firing out of it, heavy or rapid fire, always count as if the vehicle has not moved, whether it has or hasn't.

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Qua? Pg 66 of BRB states " Models firing from a vehicle count as moving if the vehicle moves..." Its under the Fire Points heading. I think you must have read the part of vehicle weaponry.

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Oops. How n00bi5h of me. I was reading from under the vehicle weaponry heading.

[chromepip]

well i have to admit that directional fire points makes more realistic and cinematic sense. But i'm not happy about it, lol.

so only firing from the side of the vehicle then. 3 a side, i hope that is enough to see off most would be hijackers, but probably not.

few people fear the lasgun, even when mounted on a tank

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Angry Flashlights.

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you never know when that one centimeter of burnt powerarmor may give way and into the soft gooey center

[Sen.Kerry]

Space marines are like really old twinkies. Still taste good, Still work, But your not quite sure whats in the soft gooey center.

[inquisitor0sylver]

I have heard both points being made for the hull lasguns of the chimera. I really hope and pray that they finally clarify whether they have 360 degree fire arc (awesome, makes them usefull) or not (makes them useless). The best resolution to the issue I've found is to count them as side sponsons just like those on every other imperial vehicle (ie: can shoot to their side and to the vehicle's front and rear, but not to the other side.). This makes it so you can fire 6 to the front or rear or 3 to the sides.

Cheers.

[ssgtdude (M.I.A)]

even with the TLOS rules when you model the chimera make sure that the lasguns are not on fixed centers. In other words they should move. The TLOS comes from the weapon itself.