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Post by Rolling Thunder on Aug 15, 2008 10:00:41 GMT -5
I am working on a paper project for a miniature that, if done correctly, will blow your collective heads clean off with the amazingness. Alas, I cannot find any tutorials on how to greenstuff large items like cloaks and robes. I remember one such conversion in White Dwarf where somebody took a preacher head, a Dark Elf Exectutioner body and greenstuffed a greatcoat over the body, concealing most of the armour. The model had a bearded head and a thunder hammer.
Can anyone remember how the greatcoat was modeled?
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Post by ssgtdude (M.I.A) on Aug 15, 2008 10:26:17 GMT -5
The great coat was modeled by taking a piece of cloth and soaking it in CA glue and being allowed to dry in the shape formed. Once the shape was formed then green stuff was used to add detail to it and smooth it out.
Another way to do this is to take a piece of plastic bag cut to shape(Slightly larger) add greenstuff to it and as the greenstuff dries you can manipulate the greenstuff under the plastic to achieve the folds in the coat that you want. Once the greenstuff is fully cured you can remove the plastic.
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Aug 17, 2008 11:14:33 GMT -5
'Kay.... got any links or pics? Them images really help.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2008 17:37:24 GMT -5
the secret ingredient: petroleum jelly
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Aug 18, 2008 13:33:07 GMT -5
What?
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Post by mardaddy on Aug 18, 2008 13:50:50 GMT -5
...that's why it's secret, RT, the less you know, the better - otherwise we'd have to kill you. BB already said too much and we are datamining his location for a *friendly* visit...
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Post by Sappmer on Aug 21, 2008 5:47:21 GMT -5
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Post by Mabus on Aug 21, 2008 8:03:02 GMT -5
Wow, that's an awsome forum!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2008 19:04:33 GMT -5
No really. Try mixing petroleum jelly with your greenstuff. Suddenly, it actually does everything you want it to. Just make sure to wash your model off before priming.
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Post by ssgtdude (M.I.A) on Aug 22, 2008 17:02:06 GMT -5
I am a member of Hobbyfanatics.com
If you want any thing answered regarding puttys, models, painting, or just want to gander at some of the resin figures, scale models, etc... that is the place to look.
A lot of my tricks come from that site.
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Aug 23, 2008 8:03:39 GMT -5
I strongly recommend not to use petroleum jelly or any other lubicants that are grease based. I did that before and it works fine with smaller greenstuffing. But as soon you start with bigger projects it becomes a pain in the ass. Use cold water, a cold light lamp, and work in a cold room. The cooler it is when you work, the longer the GS stays flexible. Also wet tools don't stick to the GS and keep your hands wet. But please not soaking as it might wash the resin parts from your greenstuff making it more fragile and get it break easily.
Also for really fine details, I recommend using Milliput or Brown Stuff as GS isn't optimal for it.
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Post by Sappmer on Aug 24, 2008 11:43:44 GMT -5
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Post by ssgtdude (M.I.A) on Aug 25, 2008 16:30:12 GMT -5
I strongly recommend not to use petroleum jelly or any other lubicants that are grease based. I did that before and it works fine with smaller greenstuffing. But as soon you start with bigger projects it becomes a pain in the ass. Use cold water, a cold light lamp, and work in a cold room. The cooler it is when you work, the longer the GS stays flexible. Also wet tools don't stick to the GS and keep your hands wet. But please not soaking as it might wash the resin parts from your greenstuff making it more fragile and get it break easily. Also for really fine details, I recommend using Milliput or Brown Stuff as GS isn't optimal for it. I've never had a problem with the larger projects (I have worked with models as large as 1/3 and 1/2.5). On these projects you are continually working and soaking in a degreaser prior to any application of paint. The petroleum jelly is a necessity at times. During those times you will need to clean the model with a degreaser (Do not use simple green for this application as it will eat away the green stuff). If you are working the Green stuff I recommend using water. If joining peices and not going to make the joint permanent until a later date then use petroleum jelly on the join so that the green stuff can be worked, but not bond the two parts together. |
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Aug 27, 2008 5:20:21 GMT -5
I just know that its a pain for me to sculpt new minis when using grease based lubricants. And its not about applying paint. its that the mix gets too soft. I find it really hard to sculpt details when using petroleum jelly. Sure it works for smaller 'projects' without much detail (like robes) but as soon as you want to get more details, you'll be glad the harder your GS is or want to use some other material, like BS or Milliput.
I really dislike using GS for details at all...
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Aug 27, 2008 10:13:26 GMT -5
I'd just raid my bits box for the details, I think that would look better anyway, but that is just my opinion.
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Aug 28, 2008 4:44:53 GMT -5
It strongly depends on your sculpting skills what looks better.
Well but in this case the bitzbox won't do anyways since he'd be missing the greatcoat...
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Post by Sen.Kerry on Aug 28, 2008 15:46:23 GMT -5
Just as a bit of encouragement to RT.
Mind is not equal to blown. New query?
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