IG vs Eldar

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I had

HQ
HSO
Master Vox
3 x Guardsmen

Ibram Gaunt

2 x squads of Lascannons
2 x squads of Autocannons
1 x Elite Stormtroopers

Troops:
PHQ
JO with power fist
2 x Plasma guns
Vox
Multi Melta

Squad 1
Sgt + close combat
Vox
Grenade Launcher
Missile launcher

Squad 2
Sgt + close combat
Vox
Grenade Launcher
Missile launcher

Squad 3
Sgt + close combat
Vox
Grenade Launcher
Autocannon

Armoured Fist:
Vox
ML
Sgt + CCW
Chimera

Heavy:

LRBT track guards x 2

LRD 3 x heavy bolters + track guards

He had:

Harlequins, fire dragons Allways a Farseer.
Swooping hawks, warp spiders, some dire avengers and allways a Avatar.
Heaps of wraith guard and Eldrad the jerk.....
Plus 1 Skimmer with the tank killing fire dragons in there.

Quick summary it was Anihilation and pitched battle. He went first and deployed all his men.
I only had out 2 squads and a HQ.
He killed one squad outright.
My turn, i brought everyone on form the board edge.
Because i did this all of my heavy weapons could not fire + i had to roll for everyone else to see if i could see him (Whick i couldn't).

His turn 2, up come the fire dragons and they eat my demolisher, and the warp spiders come in and 1/2 a squad and leave again.

My turn, i kill the fire dragons because they ate my tank and that's all i could hit of his this turn.

His thurn 3, everything moves right up and he uses bladestorm with one of the troops of 20 men. Goodbye Lascannon team 1.
Warp spiders come and kill Autocannon squad 1.
Farseer lets another squad reroll all missed shots because i was doomed with another squad.
Squad gone.

Bright lance pops the top off of a tank too.

My turn 3, nail 3 harliquens accidently because a blast template moves 9 darn inches.
Tank heavy bolters kill 4 swooping hawks.

Turn 4 and he basicly kills everything except Gaunt and the Stormies.

I have nothing really left.

He assaults the hell out of the remaiing squad, they fall to 1 man and he stays with gaunt to fight.
They kill half his squad and their exarch.

His turn 5 assault again and do nothing, mind you the Avatar is getting closer.

My turn 5, Gaunt and the 1 member kill the rest of his squad except for the exarch and eldrad.

His 6, so he dooms gaunt and he finally falls.

Game set match

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So what are you going to do different next time?

[norge187]

personaly I would maybe get rid of Gaunt, and start shaving some points of the officers, then maybe the vox's. Once thats all accomplished see how many points you have left and maybe make another platoon. Looks like you have alot wrapped up in Support squads. I would get rid of at least all but one and go get some more armor.

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Forgot to mention they had carapace.
I'm dropping that in favour of more men........

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Yeah carapace isn't really worth it considering you can use cover and benefit from the save( just watch out for flamers) More men is definitely a good idea. Most of the time my HQ is stacked on equipment and tend to handle there own in a c/c fight unless its against special characters which I've found even abbadaon can be compulsed to spasm's by the flashing of flashlights hehe ( my last game he fell GO GUARDSMEN!) Stormies are great they usually pop a tank or take out some tougher units then the get fried unfortunately. All i know is I'm still experimenting with the guard and will be come the new Dex. I'd recommend the same thing and just go out and have a good time with the army until our new release. Can't wait

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Yeah the new codex shall help i beleive........

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I think that against an Eldar force like that you could benefit from dropping a tank or even all of them (I know this is insane but listen) in favour of more men. This means that you deny his specialised anti-tank units decent targets and it also means that with his lack of templates you can fight a battle of attrition where you are sure to win. Swamp him with Guardsmen!!!

Also, personally I would drop the special weapons/heavy weapons in the squads in favour of more men. You mignt prefer the flexablity of the combos but I think that when choosing an army list for the Guard you need to repeat over and over in your head *cheap and expendable*. You are not going to care when he destroys your 70 point squad with a heavy bolter because you have a load more to rain death on the enemy!

A minor point, I would be hesitant to give my officers an expensive power fist which they are crap at using and which only attracts unnessesary attention when you NEED them alive to be doling out the leadership.

Looking at some of the rumors that are circulating about the new 'dex, a 200 point platoon with 45 men would be delicious in an army like this!

Well, tally-ho!

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Cheers, i don't have the men to try that yet, the list up there is everything i have.
I am toying with the idea of conscripts but in the new dex the normal trooper will cost the same. So i do intend to buy more troops.