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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2009 5:27:45 GMT -5
Hello all
One thing I like about the I.G. is that they can be used with other armies. Right now, I.G. can be used standalone, or mixed in with armies like Battle-Babes (Sorry, Sisters of Battle) and Daemon-Hunters. But will that be eliminated in the new codex? Will I.G. be a purely stand-alone army without the option to employ other armies' units?
It's a concept I really like, but I have a sneaking suspicion it may be eliminated, which would be a shame. Happily, it does look like the new codex will be awesome anyhow, but it'd be great to keep the ally rules.
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Post by WestRider on Mar 15, 2009 11:03:52 GMT -5
The rules for adding in Inquisitorial Units are part of the Daemon/Witch Hunter Dexes, so I'm assuming they won't get changed by an update to the IG Dex.
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Mar 15, 2009 11:12:34 GMT -5
the new SMurf dex did not mention doing away with allies(as they are in the same boat as the IG when it comes to taking inquisitors as allies) so I don't see why they'd do that to the IG
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2009 12:50:05 GMT -5
You will use them as normal per the Inquisitorial Codex of your choice. You will use the NEW rules for any/all IG units. BUT note, that it will not affect units in the Codex,,, More specifically, your Inquisitorial Stormtroopers will not get the new Hot Lasguns. That does mean if you play an Inquisitorial army that now you can take an infantry platoon lead by Cpt. Al'rhaiam and Outflank with them!
Ren
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Post by aeonian on Mar 15, 2009 22:22:17 GMT -5
Is that what he does? Al'rhaiam lets you outflank? I wonder what the other SC's do...
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Post by WestRider on Mar 15, 2009 22:36:12 GMT -5
That also depends on some other things. You can't take HQ choices as part of Inducted Guard, so if Al'rahem is only part of a Command HQ, that's a no-go.
@aeon: I believe the rumour was that he gave you Infiltrate. Don't quote me on that, though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2009 23:20:32 GMT -5
Sorry westrider, but Lt. Renen has read the fabled tome of the new codex, i think he knows what he's talking about, not that he's meant to give anything away.
*imagine court session* So, Ren, as you put it, on the day of your reading the SC know to many as Artillery Sergeant Harker had the rules that allowed him to take what actions?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2009 0:55:23 GMT -5
Hmmm. So this suggests G.W. have gone down the 'Special Characters unlock groovy abilities for the army' route with I.G., non? I too would like to know what each chara unlocks for the army. Kinda excited about it really, wasn't too sure if it'd be a good idea, but maybe it'll work out for the best. Characters on the board always leads to exciting, cinematic moments.
But I won't be using Slime Arbo, the one armed man (Or whatever his name is) under any circumstances unless they bring out a better model!
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Post by WestRider on Mar 16, 2009 2:26:53 GMT -5
@timythenerd: But he also said that large chunks of it, he'd only skimmed, and there were major parts he didn't quite remember. I'm not saying he's wrong, I'm just saying wait until someone's had time to go over this issue specifically. I spent a lot of time last spring with the Wi-Fi and my stores advance copy of the 5th Ed Rulebook correcting half-remembered stuff from people who'd gotten a quick glance through the book and then posted about it a day later. Human memory, in general, ain't all that great.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2009 4:36:18 GMT -5
Ohh, I know that. Now where did that amazing army list to the win all the games ever get to?? Anyway, I'm not trying to imply an 'Im right, your wrong situation', Im just saying, well, look at it this way. If someone told you to go into a building with your assistant, to shoot a man. No. Wait. That makes no sense. Ummm... Ahhh. If you were a sniper and a looker spotted a moving target that you know exists, but he has to move some distance to tell you which road it's on, would you trust him? Actually, forget all aforementioned logic, a lesson I was taught along time ago, Trust those who can/have seen the bigger picture. No. Actually, I just just don't want to start an argument, because I know RT will get here and kill us both.  That all Im really trying to say! |
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Post by ssgtdude (M.I.A) on Mar 16, 2009 7:53:54 GMT -5
Westrider, not to nit pick, but read that section again. If you use the Guard as the primary army list you most certainly can and should take the HQ choice.
Helps the army have a command structurre so they don't just mill around the battle field taking pot shots at anything that moves.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2009 8:53:42 GMT -5
Al'Rahim is an Infantry Platoon Captain, therefore he is a troop choice. If you take him you MUST outflank (I'm fairly sure about the must...) I don't remember what Harker does sadly but i remember wanting to take him in my army. Parth or Prath is a LR tank commander, he raises the BS of any single tank to 4. However, if the tank dies so does he.
With the Guard, I got the feeling that if you took X-character you would get Y to this unit. From what i read there was nothing that affecting you "whole" army. I was "lucky" enough to read the IG book... Like i had said i WISH i had tried to commit more to memory but i didn't know that was going to be the one and only time i got to look at it.
You say you want a new Sly model? there is not going to be one made that i herd about BUT the new plastic command squad is sexy (yes, i said a plastic spru of miniature men was sexy...) it wouldn't be too hard to make one yourself. He is an elite choice all to himself!
Last but not least I do agree with Tim, i don't want to get into a finger pointing contest. I wish I had the end all be all answers for this board, i have grown to like you guys a lot and enjoy my time here... I am trying to pass on a bit of cool knowledge from my old job, share the wealth. So take it with a grain of salt and be sure to have fun in the hobby!
Ren
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Post by WestRider on Mar 16, 2009 13:43:55 GMT -5
ssgtdude (M.I.A): He was talking about in the context of an Inquisitorial army, which to me says Daemon Hunters/WitchHunters with Inducted Guard. However, Renen did confirm that Al-Rahem is a Platoon Commander, so yeah, sounds like it. It just sounded strange to me, because last I heard, Al-Rahem was a Captain, which normally means an HQ choice. I wasn't saying he was wrong, just not to take it too seriously until confirmed, which it now has been.
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Post by aeonian on Mar 20, 2009 10:46:15 GMT -5
West rider's comment makes me wonder...what will the new Inquisition 'dex look like? A lot of us on the board prefer highly elite armies with non MEQ stats, which to me sounds like Inq. Stormies, SoB, Assassins, and that sort of thing.
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Post by WestRider on Mar 21, 2009 2:24:03 GMT -5
Just read through this again, and I came across rather more abrasively than I intended. I still believe that what I said was valid, but I phrased it quite poorly. My apologies.
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That all Im really trying to say!