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Post by superfrog on Mar 31, 2009 11:56:04 GMT -5
hey guys, ive had a look through the threads and havent seen anybody mention this,
but my loval GW manager confirmed that hellguns are replaced with hotshots, and that they have become ap3! WOOT WOOT!!! about time.
anyway, sorry if this has already been confirmed,
cheers,
froggy
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2009 12:11:53 GMT -5
Yes, the Hot-las rule has been talked about a bit. It was in the French "mistake" when they posted the summary sheet online. But thanks for bringing it up.
Ren
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2009 14:44:06 GMT -5
YES THANKS.
more dead marines, more dead marines, more dead marines, more dead marines, more dead marines, more dead marines!
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Post by aeonian on Mar 31, 2009 19:15:49 GMT -5
hey guys, ive had a look through the threads and havent seen anybody mention this, but my loval GW manager confirmed that hellguns are replaced with hotshots, and that they have become ap3! WOOT WOOT!!! about time. anyway, sorry if this has already been confirmed, cheers, froggy Welcome to the forum!  Yea, we tend to get a lot of word about, well, us, the Imperial Guard, on this forum. It's not big deal that you brought it up again. Once more: welcome Mr. Froggy |
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Post by Willem on Mar 31, 2009 20:21:45 GMT -5
the enameyy will laff them selfs to death because the name hot las is so stupid
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Post by Julian Sharps on Mar 31, 2009 23:14:54 GMT -5
The official name may have changed, but in our hearts they will always be hellguns (in my fluff there's a reason for it: High Energy Latency Laser gun (HELL gun, but it's hard to express capital letters in speech).
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Post by inquisitor0sylver on Apr 1, 2009 1:34:41 GMT -5
Well we actually already talked thls one to death. l agree that ap3 ls a nlce compromlse, though l was stlLL hoplng for rendlng  Oh, and the Hot las vs Hell guns ls actually a return to the way thlngs used to be. Way back ln 2nd edltlon when stormtroopers flrst came lnto belng (they were just dudes wlth backpacks and berets back then, and they had heavy weapons too!) they had "hot shot" lasguns, referrlng to the overcharged powerpacks for thelr guns. Thls changed to "hellguns" ln the orlglnal 3rd edltlon codex and remalned so ln the 3.5 one. So "Hot Las" change ls actually just a return to the earLler and crappler name. |
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Post by RedCuffs on Apr 1, 2009 5:11:55 GMT -5
Mk II Hellgun would sound better.
Less comical
It kind of takes enjoyment out of blasting half an enemy squad away when your opponent is strugling to contain his laughter as he removes his peices from the board.
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Post by Ogryn Crazy! on Apr 1, 2009 5:50:12 GMT -5
Yep, I remember the 2nd edition stormies with fondness.
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Graenis on Apr 1, 2009 7:22:39 GMT -5
yes, but the reason they have las in their name is so that they benefit from the added shot order  |
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Post by aeonian on Apr 1, 2009 9:50:48 GMT -5
Is that confirmed? I would love to have nearly 30 Ap3 shots from a single squad!  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2009 10:57:47 GMT -5
oh wow then maybe hell lasers or something cooler but still if that is true that would be nice with the better BS and all....so many dead marines.
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Post by John_Galt (M.I.A) on Apr 1, 2009 11:07:46 GMT -5
"Hot Las" sounds like the aftermath of an Indian food diner.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2009 11:08:42 GMT -5
For 30 ap3 shots, they could be called 'turd cannons' and I'd still find them cool.
Smile while you can Smurf-Man, your time will come...
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Apr 1, 2009 11:38:32 GMT -5
but still with 5 or 6s to wound...
aw shucks I'll take those odds,
we're all used to it.
Rapid fire, men!
rapid fire till there is nothing left!
and don't forget to lay down a barrage with those turd cannons!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2009 21:19:50 GMT -5
Can I get a Terd Pistol on the Sergent of that unit?
"Hey Sarge, how is the Power fist treating you"
"Don't know, the Terd Pistol kills stuff first!"
HA! I feel this to be a small moral victory.
Ren
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Post by Basaliskian on Apr 2, 2009 3:40:11 GMT -5
Just do what I'm going to do and call them hellguns, GW will never know.
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Graenis on Apr 2, 2009 6:56:33 GMT -5
yeah but bas, if you were playing me and called them hellguns, I wouldn't let you get the bonus to rapid fire for the order, as it is for 'las' weapons, and hellguns don't have las in their name, picky I know, but they are called that for a reason.
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Post by Basaliskian on Apr 2, 2009 7:34:32 GMT -5
Fair point, fair point, hot las it is then.
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Post by Taisac on Apr 3, 2009 13:28:42 GMT -5
This man is really an Inquisitor in all its form.
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Apr 3, 2009 13:54:53 GMT -5
yeah but bas, if you were playing me and called them hellguns, I wouldn't let you get the bonus to rapid fire for the order, as it is for 'las' weapons, and hellguns don't have las in their name, picky I know, but they are called that for a reason. erh.... really? guess you better call em hell-lasguns or las-hellguns so what if I called my boltguns las-bolters? since it seems your so hung up on every word written that you totally ignore common sense.... |
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Post by WestRider on Apr 3, 2009 14:53:41 GMT -5
Do we even know if StormTroopers can benefit from Orders? They're outside the normal Platoon organization, after all. In the Current Dex, they can't benefit from Standards or most Doctrines because of that.
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Graenis on Apr 3, 2009 18:10:02 GMT -5
As far as I can remember they can, but my memory is like a sieve, Ymmot (M.I.A): its more, GW calls them something for a reason, so you may as well go along with it, even if you don't like it, or prefer something else. also, if your playing someone who has no idea what a hellgun is, you'll just confuse them. |
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Apr 3, 2009 20:27:47 GMT -5
well I plan on calling them hotlas because the name is unimportant to me, I'm just saying it is stupid to split hairs...further more trying to cheat because "you didn't use the right name!" is only something a total jerk would do.
so lighten up.
(but I do agree with one thing, it is important not to confuse the new players...)
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Post by John_Galt (M.I.A) on Apr 3, 2009 21:22:54 GMT -5
further more trying to cheat because "you didn't use the right name!" is only something a total smurf player would do. |
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