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Post by Oztoon on Nov 28, 2006 15:57:23 GMT -5
I ave been thinking of starting an AC list but don't know where to start. I was wondering if anyone could give me some pointers and ideas of what to do and not to do as well as smart comp. when building a list like an AC one.
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Post by starwoof on Nov 28, 2006 22:06:50 GMT -5
Im going to give you the same advice I was given when I decided I felt like doing some armoured company stuff.
Firstly and most importantly, do not use doctrines. Never ever not ever. They make your tanks too expensive. In 2000 points you need to have 8+ leman russes. Sponsons are key. Otherwise you cant get enough firepower to wipe the board. Stay cheap with upgrades! You dont need your tanks to have more than 0-2 upgrades each. Exterminators are awesome.
And uh, thats all I can really remember. My list I believe consisted of: 2 Command Exterminators, a Vanquisher, an Exterminator, 3 Battle Tanks, 2 Hellhounds, A demolisher, 2 griffons.
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Post by Oztoon on Nov 28, 2006 22:34:43 GMT -5
Thanks for your help starwoof
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Nov 28, 2006 23:58:00 GMT -5
that list would pop the bloodvessel in my forehead if I had to go up against it. ram, know that starwoofs list is legal and you are full welcome to do it, but the range of players you'll attract to battle with you will be the ones who come with guns loaded with cheese simply designed to counter your list and annihilate only tanks. the above type of list is an extreme and the only way to counter it is to field an extreme AT list. you'll either steamroll the unsuspecting player and never get a battle with him/her again so long as you play your armored company or come up against someone with nothing but lascannons and tank hunter skills. on the bright side, tau are always game to go vs armored company  good luck with the army and list |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2006 2:33:45 GMT -5
yeah i have been told flat out that if i start an AC army in my club.. i wont ever get to play it.. wait till i have time today.. i have an idea on how to have an almost AC army but without it fully being AC and i think it might even work LOL |
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Nov 29, 2006 6:35:13 GMT -5
nah, you'd get games, you'd just get sick of tau broadsides and all those s10 shots they dish out |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2006 8:56:58 GMT -5
I have an Armored Company and my friend who play Tau kicks my ass everytime we play. Those damn seeker missiles kill me. He brings max amount of seekers on all vehicles and I lose my ass. When I play against everyone else I win because it is so 1 sided!
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Jan 13, 2007 2:52:21 GMT -5
armored company seems so popular for tournament IG armies - it's almost bizzare to think of a non-armored company IG tournament army these days.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2007 20:25:31 GMT -5
On the side of Doctrines:
Alternate Organization: Siege Regiment
6 Basalisks w/ Indirect Fire and Enclosed Crew Compartments, 3 Chimeras with Improved Engines, 1 Slamander Scout Vehicle with Improved Engines.
1,000 points.
Or for true nasty?
Combat Patrol of 4 Basalisks (no upgrades): 400 points
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Jan 15, 2007 22:59:54 GMT -5
basilisks have ordinance and are thus out for combat patrols
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Jan 16, 2007 3:05:04 GMT -5
Tanks are vehicles thus they're out of combat patrols. ACs can do combat patrols. They have to rely on the good ol' infantry to do such things  |
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Jan 16, 2007 3:17:22 GMT -5
I think chimera is the only IG vehicle allowed in combat patrols other than sentinels.
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Jan 16, 2007 8:52:42 GMT -5
Afaik not even Sentinals are allowed, cause walkers aren't allowed. Or at least I hope that they're not allowed...  And Chimeras are vehicles as well and somewhere I've read that vehicles get a 'no go' for combat patrols... |
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on Jan 16, 2007 10:32:18 GMT -5
Right Ho. I have a AC List somewhere Upstairs in my COllection of Old White Dwarfs, I will dig out for you Trooper, And post it all on here, Like, How many of each you can have and such as.
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Jan 16, 2007 10:36:24 GMT -5
Afaik you can download it on any GW site. Even the German GW site added it, after the US and GB site had it already for more than 5 months |
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on Jan 16, 2007 10:46:05 GMT -5
Afaik you can download it on any GW site. Even the German GW site added it, after the US and GB site had it already for more than 5 months Its all good, I need to dig it out for myself, Im planning to turn my 3000 point army into a Mechanised Army anyway. |
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Jan 16, 2007 12:47:42 GMT -5
Mechanized (doctrine wise) or Armoured Company (Codex wise)?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2007 14:42:44 GMT -5
Knight> Vehicles are allowed. Any vehicle with a total armor value (front + one side + rear) of 33 or less (12/11/10 is about as heavily armoured as you can get). Walkers are in, but Ordinance isn't.
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Jan 18, 2007 2:19:06 GMT -5
chimerae would be so awesome if they had 11 side armor *wishwish*
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2007 6:30:06 GMT -5
Hah, your wishes aren't going to be granted unfortunately, a Chimera with 11 side armour practically isn't even a transport anymore. People would use them as armour and mechanised companies would become commonplace. There has to be an element of risk with the added protection of vehicle armour and movement.
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Jan 21, 2007 5:31:38 GMT -5
heh I just looked at the title of this thread: 'armored company' and realized there's an AC doctrine that gives +1 to the side armor of vehicles, so 11 side armored chimerae is a reality |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2007 9:22:04 GMT -5
yummy side skirts.
I took the side skits template that is on the armored company second of the Games works shop site. Stectched it to the side they suggested that I make and mass produced them on plasticard. I am waiting to attach them until I get more magnets. I dont like to have add ons that I cannot remove because I have people who are major "wizzy Wig" rules lawyers.
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