What scale are GW tanks?

[9th Company]

Hi everyone,

I was just wondering, what scale are Imperial Guard tanks made in? I want to buy some accessories to give my tanks a more realistic feel and since my army operates in the desert I`m going to need lots of jerry cans.

I was thinking 1/35 but is this right?
Thanks

[Woz]

GW started with 25mm figs but over the years things have gotten bigger and now GW figures are in 28mm.

But just to confuse things the tanks are in a different scale, as it's a only a game the tanks aren't kept to the same scale. They make the tanks look about right for the game but are probably slightly smaller then they should be.

By the way 28mm, means the average man who is 6' tall is represented by a 28mm figure.

[thefishki345]

yeah, i think any plastic model kit would do, and if its for the accessories it doesnt matter too much.

[Deleted]

1/35 is usually a good scale to go by. My friend and i took some measurements. 1/42 scale is the closest we came to an actual result. In real modelling terms, the scale is just 28mm scale.

[missinglink]

Does anyone have the dimensions for a SM Rhino model (preferably in inches)? I'm trying to check a few things on some models I might be using as a base for a fast vehicle in my army. I wantr something about the size of the rhino and my son's stuff is on its way to Texas.

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[thefishki345]

um, im not sure really, maybe its just the normal size of a GW tank lol.

[Rolling Thunder]

I don't think your allowed to post that... Nevermind.

[Colonel Scipio]

The closest models I've ever seen are I line of Revel that are 1:48th scale. 35th will work if it's just for packs and kitrolls etc, people like Tamiya do a lot of that sort of stuff but for parts, jerry cans and such like I always stick with 48th if possible.

[Deleted]

1:32 works well, but remember that most model kits are "realistic" styled, and warhammer is fantasy style, where sizes of objects (such as weapons and biceps... CATACHANS!! ) are drasticly out of proportion, so to speak.

So it is really hard to find any decent looking scale model kits along with GW models, I have found

[Deleted]

Legend of Korea do lots of 1/35th stowagedesigned for specific vehicles, tanks APC's etc, I was think of getting the set for a USMC Stryker, however to use on a chimera or Rhino. I think it's about £16.00

In essence I'd have said that 1/48th is better and again Legend do a stowage set in 1/48 scale for a Sherman M4, which can easily be used, about £7.00

Forge World also do some stowage, although for what you get this works out expensive, £4.00 for 5 packs and rolls!!!

[knight (M.I.A)]

1/35 is far too huge. Those minis are around 25-30cm long. A normal Chimera is about 13!
1/48 would work, but not many manufactureers have minis in that range and most of those minis in that scale are WW2

[Deleted]

As seen in some tutorials around, the light vehicle conversion coming to mind from GW's website.... you could do a hull chop which would bring them(1/35) much closer to size.

or

You could account for them in another way. Anyone whos read 'Straight Silver' I believe it is will know what I'm talking about. The Aexe and the Radiq or whoever the enemy is use 'dreadnaughts' basically super huge tanks that are closer to WWI tanks than Guard Tanks....

[ssgtdude (M.I.A)]

missinglink said:

Does anyone have the dimensions for a SM Rhino model (preferably in inches)? I'm trying to check a few things on some models I might be using as a base for a fast vehicle in my army. I wantr something about the size of the rhino and my son's stuff is on its way to Texas.

-Link

The actual size of a rhino or the scale measurements?

The actual sizes are found in the the sm codex. If you look at the sizes of the models they don't translate. it is one of those wtf??? moments with GW. They have had several moments to correct it. Most currently with the latest inception of the vanquisher, but do they? Nope. Just going to continue using poorly designed models.

[missinglink]

ssgtdude said:

missinglink said:

Does anyone have the dimensions for a SM Rhino model (preferably in inches)? I'm trying to check a few things on some models I might be using as a base for a fast vehicle in my army. I wantr something about the size of the rhino and my son's stuff is on its way to Texas.

-Link

The actual size of a rhino or the scale measurements?

The actual sizes are found in the the sm codex. If you look at the sizes of the models they don't translate. it is one of those wtf??? moments with GW. They have had several moments to correct it. Most currently with the latest inception of the vanquisher, but do they? Nope. Just going to continue using poorly designed models.

At the time I asked that, my stuff was all packed up and on the way from my last duty station. I was looking at the actual model size, not scale. I know the scale is WAY off, but if the scale of the vehicles matched the scale of the figures, Chimeras would be almost as big as a baneblade.

I have several 1/35 scale military models, some of which have been converted for use in 40K. My HMMWV is almost the same size as my son's land raider. I have found that 1/48 is a better for vehicles though for accessories like packs and bedrolls, 1/35 works better.


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[mardaddy]

Everyone need to remember that every model on the board, figure or vehicle, are just REPRESENTATIONS. The Rhino does not have to actually fit 10 SM's in it, the Chimera does not have to actually fit 12... they were designed as representative of the vehicle, not actual scale.

[missinglink]

Exactly, mardaddy. I'm just talking about getting additional vehicles about the right size as a comparable GW vehicle. To do this, a 1/48 scale vehicle is about right.


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[mardaddy]

You must be correct because you agree with me ;D

It is not always about the scale either: Light and Medium Tanks in 1/35 could conceivably have a smaller footprint than Heavy tanks in 1/48, so do not just go by "scale."

I have a Tamiya 1/48 WWII US Stuart I converted into a Hydra that, although looking a little under-gunned because I used four HW sprue Autocannons, still fits the bill as far as the "footprint" needed to fairly represent the thing - a 1/35 model would have had too large a footprint and been between a Russ and a Baneblade in size.

A 1/35 UK Universal Weapons Carrier would have a smaller footprint as that Stuart tank, even though it is a larger scale.

[knight (M.I.A)]

If GW would model their tanks after a specific scale the BB would be hge really huge.

Missinglink:
I hope you didn't mean that the Chimera should be nearly as big as a BB in fluff terms. That would be sooo wrong, as you can see in 'Honor Guard'

[missinglink]

No...I meant that if I used a 1/35 scale model of a Bradley/M113/Stryker it would be huge even though it is basically the same thing as a Chimera. They had to use a smaller model or you would never fit tanks on the table. The 1/35 scale HMMWV I have converted is as big as my Lemn Russes. We all know that a HMMWV is smaller than a tank, and since I was looking for a small attack vehicle I will use a 1/48 next time.

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[ssgtdude (M.I.A)]

Funny you say this mardaddy. As there are other boards out there that are full dead set on that all vehicles are WYSIWYG. When you bring up the point that while this is true regarding the weapons and what other bits that might be on it they stand by their stance and won't listen to anything else you have to say. For instance. Can a Landraider block LOS to a Demon prince? Both are size three. Which then opens a can of worms that you don't want to get into.