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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2008 8:35:46 GMT -5
At my local games work shop (Liverpool) last Saturday w played a huge tank battle, more or less if it has Armour stick it on the board. I had my bane blade and chimera, all i have so far any way, both of these where painted white as My army is a snow themed army. for some reason, EVERY ONE was wanting to shoot at my bane blade. I could every one just saying they should shoot the white one. my chimera got obliterated i the first shot of the game, rather it then my bane blade. But i just took a complete pounding, immobilized on the first turn. and every turn my battle cannon got stunned so i never got to shoot it once. though i did learn one thing, the bane blade can take one hell of a pounding. in the second battle. it took a bane blade and about six vanquishers, with some suspect upgrades i might add, about five turns to finally destroy my bane blade!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2008 19:05:45 GMT -5
Yeah when I play my baneblade, the best thing I notice about it is that it draws an incredible amount of fire. However, my friends are learning to get over their fear and ignore it to blast my smaller tanks first. Plus it doesn't hurt that it lays down a huge blast with amazing strength and AP.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2008 2:08:17 GMT -5
yup. welcome to the glories and pains of being in the Baneblade club. They either get all the attention, or none at all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2008 21:52:33 GMT -5
maybe they're like bulls - they see a certian color and go berserk.
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Post by sammy1979 on Feb 22, 2008 5:09:55 GMT -5
a while back i posted a thread about my pink vostroyans squad and how much fire they draw, in proportion to what they are actually caperble of, so this is more proof that, colours that stand out draw more fire then normal, i figure that its because most smurf players etc have the mental ability of a magpie, and there attention is drawn to shiny and bright things.
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Post by lordcastellenjon on Feb 22, 2008 8:22:28 GMT -5
LOL yup thats why some idiot had the idea to try and slap my baneblade with a krak rocket ot the front armour lets just say all you heard was THUNK..... Hay jo did that guy just shoot somin at us?"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2008 16:59:01 GMT -5
hmmm... this makes me think...
what if you had a normall green camo army, but painted up one squad with say bright orange weapons, make them look like a prisioner unit or something.
then hopefully they will draw fire riather then what can actaully hurt your enemy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2008 4:16:21 GMT -5
I have that actually. 30 Conscripts in orange.
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Post by Colonel Scipio on Mar 13, 2008 8:02:35 GMT -5
I know this is gonna sound crazy, but in my opinion Baneblades shouldn't be any colour at all... no-one should have them! No, before you send for the Platoon Commissar to have me dragged off in shackles let me explain. There was once one a simpler time, in which the rules were Third Edition, and the tanks were vulnerable to clever tactics. 14 armour or not, it wasn't impossible to get some krak grenades close up and blow it to smithereens... Nowadays the latest rules and models seem to be appealing to the 'magpie' group as sammy1979 so aptly put it; big guns, lots of '10's in the stat lines and wounds for vehicles? Come on! Now, I find that my characterful, fluffed up army designed to represent a vaugely plausable External Expeditionary Force, with years of patient modelling and backgrounding, can be pipped to the post by any John Q. Noob with a Baneblade and a thoroughly misplaced sense of trust in armour values. Maybe it's just me getting cynical in my old age (18 ) but who doesn't yearn for the days of old, where the requirement of becoming a General in the Imperial Guard exceeded that of the Cadian PDF Recouperation Center for the Terminialy Bewildered? Where tactics mattered and Baneblades were but a mention in the rulebook? There, that's my rant over, but on the flip side of the coin the model does look stunning, and as a born-and-bred die-hard tread-head I can't deny that I've been tempted by the Baneblade. And if it does appeal to the 'magpie' lot and get them into the game, it can't be bad I suppose.
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Mar 15, 2008 10:07:22 GMT -5
imagine a techpriest enginseer with a full crew of servitors to hang out behind the square city block of death known as the baneblade <3
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Post by Mabus on Mar 15, 2008 13:18:55 GMT -5
.............. TB knows my most top-secret ploy to loose my 40k friends fast!
Yes, I admit Baneblades are N00bish, but you have to take into concideration the fact that they cost a third of most peoples' armies in points. You could have literarally dozens of Lascannons for that price.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2008 7:24:48 GMT -5
'nuff said.
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Post by lordcastellenjon on Mar 17, 2008 7:54:48 GMT -5
I agree with the fact that the magpie braind idiots that play the game will just go BANEBLADE FIRE EVERY THING AT IT but I actuley took a BB out with a stormtrooper squad and a lot of krak grandes 1 krak nade from every trooper to be true the thing went KABOOM and the look on my opents face ^^ pricesless
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Mar 17, 2008 9:32:38 GMT -5
That is the 'thing' about armour+ its not infantry. It has a different set of requited strategems- both in 40K and the real world.
1.- Armour is hideously vulnerable to close assault. See -reality and -Melta weapons
2. While the baneblade IS a lumbering death-machine of epic proportions, it can be easily neutralised on a decent-sized board by -immobilisation -Lots of LOS-blocking terrain (you may wish to keep some chimeras for this.)
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Post by Mabus on Mar 17, 2008 14:10:55 GMT -5
You have to be flat-out retarded stupid to allow a BB to get into CC range, same goes for Melta wepons.
The BB will become vulnerable if you don't support them with adequate infantry.
I don't think cover is going to protect anyone from that many Heavy bolters.........be realistic.
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Post by lordcastellenjon on Mar 17, 2008 19:02:09 GMT -5
lol the heavy boltors are misleading if you ask me they are twin linked and you only get 6 shots on one target (or squad) the other will have to settle for just 3 shots
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Post by Mabus on Apr 1, 2008 17:24:03 GMT -5
You could simply elect to fire all your heavy Bolter sponsons on one target. This is quite a silly thing to do though. That much Firepower concentrated on one target is just..........harsh.
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Apr 2, 2008 13:08:03 GMT -5
Or you could just refrain from using a baneblade altogether........ no.
But to be frank, a 80pts deepstriking stormtrooper squad (2 meltas, deepstrike) will see the end of the baneblade.
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Post by Mabus on Apr 2, 2008 14:55:48 GMT -5
I doubt it very much. That tactic might work against a Leman Russ or even a Macharius if you are lucky, but against a Baneblade, not a hope.
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Post by lordcastellenjon on Apr 4, 2008 19:44:14 GMT -5
unless you get 2 hits and to 6's then another 4 6's on your dice
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Apr 5, 2008 6:06:14 GMT -5
Oh well.... three five man melta squads. And two three-melta special weapons squads.
How doyou like them apples?
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Post by Woz on Apr 5, 2008 10:37:07 GMT -5
Or you could just refrain from using a baneblade altogether........ no. But to be frank, a 80pts deepstriking stormtrooper squad (2 meltas, deepstrike) will see the end of the baneblade. Don't forget the Vet Serg with his Plasma pistol (which can penetrate the rear armour). Or take two Plasma guns for more shots.
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Post by Mabus on Apr 6, 2008 15:40:58 GMT -5
Still pretty damned unlikely though. Storm troopers don't scare me when I use my Banblade. When you think about how easy it would be for a Baneblade to wipe all 'em Storm troopers and Guardsmen out. Pipps.
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Post by Woz on Apr 6, 2008 20:37:19 GMT -5
Still pretty damned unlikely though. Storm troopers don't scare me when I use my Banblade. When you think about how easy it would be for a Baneblade to wipe all 'em Storm troopers and Guardsmen out. Pipps. Turn 1 BB has nothing to shoot at. Turn 2 BB has nothing to shoot at. Turn 3 BB has nothing to shoot at. Turn 4 BB has nothing to shoot at. Five, five man stormtrooper squads each with two plasma guns and a vet serg with plasma pistol and melta bombs appear behind the BB. They let loose 25 Plasma shots into the rear armour. Turn 5 BB burns. Stormies break out the marshmellows. ;D
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Post by Mabus on Apr 7, 2008 15:17:32 GMT -5
That's not going to happen. Anyway that many Storm troopers are almost as many points as the Baneblade. Besides, in all the time the Storm troopes have been waiting to deep strike the Baneblade has been killing dozens of infantry squads.
That's not a good way of using storm troopers, they are quite likely to die in the possible nucleur Explosion that would follow the Babeblade's destruction.
Think of all the other useful things the Storm troopers could be doing in all the turns you are wasting them by holding them in reserve.
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