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Post by Srgt. Master on Feb 20, 2008 20:47:37 GMT -5
whats the diffrence betwen the ordinance and ordinance barrage???
they seem the same to me..........
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Post by starwoof on Feb 21, 2008 0:11:13 GMT -5
Ordinance barrages cause pinning at a -1 modifier, right?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2008 2:06:14 GMT -5
Pinning at -1 LD, generally barrage weapons dont need LOS (although this is noted in their range section). It then uses the Ordnance penetration chart for vehicle damage
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Post by The Refined Gentleman (M.I.A) on Feb 22, 2008 13:57:58 GMT -5
can't all barrage ordanance be given indirect fire?
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Post by Srgt. Master on Feb 22, 2008 18:54:26 GMT -5
should, but is the earthshaker cannon ordinance barrage?  |
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Post by angelusmortis on Feb 24, 2008 20:47:42 GMT -5
can't all barrage ordanance be given indirect fire? Ordnance Barrage weapons by definition are indirect fire. All you really got to remember is Ordnance require LOS, Barrage dont. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2008 23:44:17 GMT -5
should, but is the earthshaker cannon ordinance barrage? its in the IG codex, Pg 49. No, the Earthshaker -isnt- barrage. the indirect fire upgrade makes it barrage, but only iff you fire indirectly. If you fire directly, it isnt barrage even if you bought the indirect upgrade. |
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Post by mccaptain on Feb 26, 2008 2:08:43 GMT -5
I'm scared of the earthshaker when I can't see it, but if its right in front of me with it's barrel leveled right at me I'm perfectly fine with it...... hmmmmmm......
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Post by Srgt. Master on Mar 3, 2008 17:09:28 GMT -5
ok, so as long as i fire inderectly, it will always play by barrage rules...cool!!! ;D (good bye orksies  and so if it hits, they have to take a pinning test, right? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2008 0:31:37 GMT -5
yes they will then have to test for pinning. Just be sure to observe the minimum 36" range for firing indirectly! I find that generally for the first two turns I can fire indirectly before the enemy are into the minimum range. (I usually only field one unless in playing a larger game)
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Post by Srgt. Master on Mar 6, 2008 19:48:20 GMT -5
a good way to counter that letdown is to have a squad of infiltrators/snipers fireing on the closest target to the minimum range, pinn them, and blow them up with the earthshaker  it's worked for me on basic lists with a basilisk(heavy losses of "volinteres" of course  ) |
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Mar 8, 2008 3:14:47 GMT -5
True, indirect fire does allow for more unscrupulous commanders of the guard to 'accidentally' drop a barrage on their own men when they become engaged in combat.
And to answer you McCaptain: yes, its more terrifying if you can't see it because- you don't know its coming, and thus it has a greater effect on morale, due to the fact they can't fight back or even take cover from it.
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