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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2007 17:56:54 GMT -5
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Post by Commissar on Jan 6, 2007 20:37:55 GMT -5
I prefer t the lasguns, mainly for fluff but also because they are rapid fire and when 50 conscripts are in range of their target and rapid fire, well those lasguns will do more than just give the enemy a major seizure.
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Jan 8, 2007 8:50:19 GMT -5
Lasguns and bajonets are too nice and fluffy...  And Lasguns are my only effective weapon vs. Terminators and other "big things" ;D |
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Post by Commissar on Jan 8, 2007 23:57:49 GMT -5
Meh, I try to use as many Heavy Weapons in my squads now, mainly missile launchers because they are good against some armour and infantry.
I've never had the chance to use shotguns yet, they dont seem practical I mean by the time the guardsmen are in range they might as well be thrown in the dead pile automatically because they wont last too long in close combat against many enemies.
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Jan 9, 2007 3:04:02 GMT -5
If I get the choice between attacking in CC or being attacked I'll choose the attacking. Firstly the enemy loses his bonus attack for charging that way and with a bit of luck my guardsmen will die in his turn and his squad is in rapid fire range of my whole army then |
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Jan 9, 2007 7:51:40 GMT -5
knights got it right on that one. I had to sacrifice my special weapon squad with demo charge the other day to hold up a melee for just long enough to retreat and set up my guns and the worst part is that a whole squad of striking scorpions (I was facing eldar) was just coming around the edge of the forest - I coulda had a sweeeeet shot with that s8 ap2 pie plate and smoked em all but I had to do the neccessary thing and throw my squad into the fight just to stall it long enough. when the melee broke I killed every eldar that was there standing over the corpses of the guardsmen I sacrificed in one volley though. every last one except the stupid farseer that dodged like a billion kill shots  .. oh well, my commander stuck him in the back a couple times with a powersword a few turns later  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2007 20:58:54 GMT -5
Hellguns! Woo!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2007 12:32:09 GMT -5
What is an auto-gun? was that in the old codex?  |
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Post by Commissar on Oct 11, 2007 21:57:06 GMT -5
An autogun is like an automatic rifle.
Pretty useless against anything aside from your fellow guardsmen and some weaker enemies.
Its like, a lasgun...sorta.
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Oct 12, 2007 4:36:24 GMT -5
Rulewise its a standard lasgun, but nowerdays its only important in Necromunda or if you want to convert your army a bit
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2007 4:41:17 GMT -5
I think an auto-gun would be put next to useless, if facing chaos space marines, marines or anything with battle hardened armour for that matter. Las-guns are what we need!!! i would choose shotguns however for hardened veterans. Any veteran squad who has the job of infiltrating up into no man's land deserves close quarter protection. Shotguns being assault 2 give double the amount of firepower, and because it is an assault weapon, i think that gives them the ability to charge and still get that bonus attack (correct me if im wrong)
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Oct 16, 2007 10:22:41 GMT -5
Autoguns are actually better, as if your anything like the murderous buggers my army are (fluff-wise). they cause bleeding, and, hypotheticly can be loaded with nasty toxins and the like..... Plus the whole massed fire thing is coolerif you can here this whole wall of noise rather than pttt-pttt-pttt that lasguns have.But its shotguns for me.
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Post by Mabus on Oct 16, 2007 12:15:34 GMT -5
I just wish standard infantry had access to hellguns, but then again every guard player does!
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Oct 17, 2007 4:11:56 GMT -5
If the standard weapons for IG would be Hellguns I'd sell all my IG and join Chaos with everything. The crappy equipment is what makes IG so much fun to play with
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2007 21:33:24 GMT -5
well if you do grenaiders then you do get hellguns and carapace armour.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2007 6:11:19 GMT -5
haha nice one rolling thunder "pttt-pttt-pttt" ah well, Thats the IG
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Post by Mabus on Oct 21, 2007 6:28:21 GMT -5
I use the Grenadier list. Oh, and knight the hellgun is still very crap, it's not much better than a lasgun.
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Nov 5, 2007 8:11:48 GMT -5
/me smashes Mabus down to an inch with the Imperial Guard Codex.
I play IG long enough now, and just beccause my set allegiance is CSM doesn't mean I don't know about the IG equipment.
I know what stats the Hellgun got and that it got a targeter. But that doesn't change that I like grenadiers/stormtroopers very much. The Kasrkin minis are great, but I don't really like the rules and that every idiot is using deepstriking 5 man stormi squads with 2 meltaguns...
/me wipes the cheese dripping from the display
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2007 10:08:38 GMT -5
Hey now lets be fair. I drop 5 man vet squads with 3 meltas to hell with storm troopers
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Post by twerd on Nov 6, 2007 21:19:58 GMT -5
3 10man squads deepstriking with combi of the weapons they set up a new front and wipe the place clean and a few surive long enough to see the end of the battle deepstrike = itration of the enemy not just suicde squads
back on topic: lasguns for me
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2007 15:52:20 GMT -5
Shotguns, meh, same stats as lasgun, except it's assualt, and the others rapid fire, so it gets 1 shot at 24"
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Dec 20, 2007 17:05:34 GMT -5
Not completely the same.
The shotgun only has half the range of the Lasgun/Autogun
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.. oh well, my commander stuck him in the back a couple times with a powersword a few turns later 
