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Post by The Refined Gentleman (M.I.A) on Apr 15, 2007 6:21:59 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300][/glow] i'v collected my 1st 20 cadianshock troops and my mate is collecting chaos and i need some GOOD tactics 2 beat him in a game situation (weapons, stratigies ect)
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Post by thefishki345 on Apr 15, 2007 6:27:19 GMT -5
lol um hmm idk many tacitcs against chaos but DO NOT KILL THE GUY THAT TURNS IN 2 THE CHAOS LORD and try to take out the defilers first lol
and dude 20 shock troops aint gna fill it but good job ne way lol i have 45 but every 1 has 2 start somewhere (i started with 20 2 lol)
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Post by Warmaster Stabwhiskers on Apr 15, 2007 10:00:16 GMT -5
20 shock troops against what type of chaos units? cause 20 shock troops like fishki said....is not enough...
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Post by thefishki345 on Apr 15, 2007 19:27:36 GMT -5
yeh yet stabby be encouraging i only had 35 until yesterday lol now i have *sighs* 45 lol (plus arbites and im getting sum kaskin) MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2007 2:11:36 GMT -5
lots of men... plasma weapons are your best bet. Plasma rifles on the squad based level will help, lascannons if they have tanks and roll on you with them. Also the battle cannon on a Leman russ does wonders against 3+ saves. I play Chaos Space Marine Iron Warriors so if you want some tips just PM me or something. be glad to be of service.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2007 9:25:53 GMT -5
dont let him engage u in cc
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2007 21:39:55 GMT -5
Its good to kill the deamon vessel as he will have to roll stability. For chaos marines you go after them the way you go after normal marines there really isnt difference. However, if using deamons. You may want to change your tactics. If the chaos player is using Fast Deamons you need to watch out as they can move and assault on the turn they come out. If not using any fast deamons then just fire at the closest targets which would be a good idea any way. When the deamons come out you want to fire at them and deal at least 25% to make them make a stability check. If you find them assaulting you throw everything at them and outnumber them. Hopefully, you have dealt enough casualties to them that you can kill them easily or that they dont have that many attacks so you can keep them locked for a while. Something else you need to think about if the chaos player is playing a certain type of chaos army Khorne, Slaneesh, etc. If Khorne just run a tank in front and hope they dont have powerfists. If its the closest they'll have to chase it. It's not the best sportsman like to do this but an effective strategy. The other armies you dont really need to worry about, perhaps nurgle with nurgles rot but just dont let them get in/within assault range and you should be fine.
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Post by thefishki345 on Apr 17, 2007 0:49:15 GMT -5
good idea yet killing the deamon vessel means that the big deamon prince comes out and thats even more of a problem is it not?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2007 5:50:13 GMT -5
thats a biggg problem when that happens
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2007 13:35:32 GMT -5
as to the greater deamon being a big problem. Its since he's playing at all. However, if it willingly comes out no instability check and it may be closer. If you can wipe out the unit and force it to take instability checks your in a better position. Also, if you get it far enough back you may get a couple pot shots off at it as well.
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Post by thefishki345 on Apr 19, 2007 0:09:31 GMT -5
okay...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2007 19:06:59 GMT -5
Be careful with pimped-out vehicles, Chaos get lots of cheat heavy weapons at BS4.
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Post by thefishki345 on Apr 24, 2007 6:57:52 GMT -5
hehehehe
CHAOS RULE
DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR lol
ok, u can ask me how to beat chaos in june cos thats when im starting black legion
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Post by dethklok on Apr 24, 2007 10:41:21 GMT -5
ok what faction of chaos is he goin for? Cause this makes some probs arise with collecting. My best suggestions are as follows.
For BIG deamons- Las cannons Las cannons Las cannons [and snipers]
Foot Slogers- they are good but not unstopable i would say that 1 chaos soldier is 2 shock troops as far as effectiveness is concerned. Just lots of Las should take these guys down. some plasmas might be a good investment
defilers- Rockets or Las cannons. if they get to close for comfort i used to run 3 squads with meltas at it and watch it blaze.
Raptors- hvy bolters and Auto Cannons will end their happy days no problem.
Tanks- standard for any army.
Leader- eat ordinance sucker!
Now some suggestions for the specific factions
Tzeench- Lots of assulty types. Las volleys will work but it is risky cause they have 2 wounds. but they cant carry weapons besides bolters [woohoo]. they like to mess with your troops psyc so watch that. With Termes may the emperor have mercy on your soul with a +2 armor save and 2 wounds this is a prob. but plasma or melta should counter it. Watch the Sorceror they are bad Arse.
Khorne- "Blood for the blood god and skulls for his throne!"
These boys are scary. kill the beserkers fast as you can less you want your army devouered. but also take out the tanks. If you take conscripts one thing i have found works is this. beserkers have to charge the 1st enemy they see so woohoo go my 14 year old meat sheild. just watch it hand to hand combat scary for guard. might want to have some Ogryns.
Nurgle- Ewwww. They are T 5. which means that you will have a hard time trying to las volley them to death. Hvy Bolters and Auto cannons should do the trick. And watch it their plauge tools are like this "ok come and get me oh look at that the fumes from my rotting corpse have killed you."
Slaanesh- Pink? They are fast. watch it and take down those annoying sound weapons if he takes any. watch their deamons and lords cause they will always out combat you but they have a Risk of ODing and killing themselves after they take to many combat drugs ;D. again biggest concern is their speed so watch it.
Some of my tactics that work you may disagree and that is ok.
Cheers Dethklok
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