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Post by blackarmchair on Sept 12, 2009 22:36:35 GMT -5
+ Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor Lord [321]
- Force Weapon, Blessed Weapon, Master Crafted Weapon, Rosarius, Cloak of St. Aspira, Teleport Homer (140)
- His Will Be Done (15)
- Retinue: Familiar, 3x Combat Servitors (36)
- Chimera Transport: Multi-Laser, Smoke Launchers (80)
+ Grey Knight Grand Master [430]
- Icon of the Just, Master-Crafted Nemisis Force Weapon (40)
- 4x Grey Knight Terminator with Nemisis Force Weapons and Storm Bolters
- 1x Grey Knight Terminator with Nemisis Force Weapon and Incinerator
+ Vindicare Assassin [110]
+ Inquisitorial Stormtroopers [180]
- 1x Veteran Stormtrooper Sgt with Teleport Homer
- 4x Inquisitorial Stormtroopers
- 2x Inquisitorial Stormtroopers with Plasmaguns
- Chimera Transport: Multi-Laser, Smoke Launchers (80)
+ Inquisitorial Stormtroopers [180]
- 1x Veteran Stormtrooper Sgt with Teleport Homer
- 4x Inquisitorial Stormtroopers
- 2x Inquisitorial Stormtroopers with Plasmaguns
- Chimera Transport: Multi-Laser, Smoke Launchers (80)
+ Imperial Guard Infantry Platoon
- Platoon Command Squad: 4x Grenade Launchers (50)
- Infantry Squad: 1x Flamer, 1x Missile Launcher (70)
- Infantry Squad: 1x Flamer, 1x Missile Launcher (70)
- Heavy Weapons Squad: 3x Lascannons (105)
+ Grey Knights [205]
- 1x Justicator with Artificer Armor, Master-Crafted Nemisis Force Weapon
- 5x Grey Knights
- 1x Grey Knight with Incinerator
+ Land Raider [228]
- Dozer Blade, Smoke Launchers
+ Leman Russ Battle Tank
- Sponson Heavy Bolters
Total: 2000
Daemonhunters is my parent list, and so everyone knows I'm new to =I= and am working with what I have.
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Sept 12, 2009 22:46:10 GMT -5
you must take two troop choices from Codex IG before you are allowed you take one leman russ.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Sept 12, 2009 23:23:56 GMT -5
It's true. I'd drop both =I= stormie squads -- their role can be fulfilled better by a platoon.
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Post by blackarmchair on Sept 12, 2009 23:48:31 GMT -5
It's true they can. I'm just using my =I= as a parent list, shoot I didn't realize that about the russ....
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Post by cheminhaler on Sept 13, 2009 8:25:28 GMT -5
The =I= Lord should have 2 astropaths to give you the free shot at infiltrators. So set him up near the Leman Russ.
Maybe you could drop the Vindicare and one stormtrooper squad to make way for anothe IG platoon.
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Post by blackarmchair on Sept 14, 2009 1:07:02 GMT -5
You're thinking of mystics actually, astropaths are IG regimental advisors.
Plus witchhunter inquisitors don't have access to mystics anyway, I just like their powers/wargear better.
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Post by kaime on Sept 14, 2009 3:04:49 GMT -5
Thats some illegal inquisitor lord. He is carrying a sisters of battle only 2 handed close combat weapon aswell as a sisters only cloak.
Remember the blessed weapon is a 2 hand, so you cant use other close combat weapons at the same time.
Inquisitors are awful in close combat generally, the extremely expensive forceweapon wont help since he will still have to wound to do anything.
And like mentioned before, you cant take the leman russ without two infantry platoons.
Maybe you should switch it up and use Imperial Guard as the main list with Daemonhunter Allies.
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Post by Melissia on Sept 14, 2009 8:09:36 GMT -5
Kaime is correct. A Daemon-Hunters Inquisitor Lord cannot take the Blessed Weapon, Rosarius, Cloak of St. Aspira, or the power "His Will Be done." Meanwhile, the Witch-Hunters Inquisitor Lord cannot take the Blessed Weapon, Cloak of S.t Aspira, or Teleport Homer.
So regardless of which you use, that is an illegal Inquisitor Lord.
Personally, I would say that if you insist on using an inquisitor lord, you do the following: Terminator/Artificer Armor, Psycannon, two Mystics, a Sage, and 3 Gun Servitors w/Heavy Bolters.
Add in a power weapon or thunder hammer, and it'll come out to around ~200-215 points, depending on what else you take. It'll be a shooty unit, no doubt about that, but it'll make the most of the unit's strength. Remember, if you take a Chimera, it is the one listed in C:DH (possibly FAQed), not in C:IG.
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Post by cheminhaler on Sept 14, 2009 8:37:06 GMT -5
I didn't realise you were doing W/H. I just saw Grey Knights and assumed it was D/H.
Mystics are a good bonus at the moment.
The inquisitor is just too expensive, and he's only T3.
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Post by Melissia on Sept 14, 2009 8:46:44 GMT -5
Regardless of which that they use, that inquisitor lord is using illegal equipment.
Also, Witch Hunters Inquisitors have crappier equipment than Daemonhunters.
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Post by cheminhaler on Sept 14, 2009 9:23:48 GMT -5
I think blackarmchair wants his =I= lord to drive forward in the chimera and use his
teleport homer to call in the Grey Knights. The gun servitors would be useless in that role, but some crusader veterans and combat servitors would help.
You already have the Grand Master as a D/H HQ, so you could just get an Elite Inquisitor and give him/her power armour, the teleport homer, some bodyguards and a psychic power.
Don't overequip them like crazy.
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Post by Melissia on Sept 14, 2009 12:00:50 GMT -5
Give them a thunder hammer if you want them to assault. They need the help, and THs are the same price as PFs anyway.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Sept 14, 2009 13:22:40 GMT -5
Some power armored acolytes with mancathers are a great help to assaulty I lords.
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Post by Melissia on Sept 14, 2009 14:33:21 GMT -5
Mancatchers are a WH thing I think. DH inquisitors have access to the teleport homer, but not the mancatcher. And the thunder hammer is for DH inquisitors only, too.
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Post by cheminhaler on Sept 15, 2009 9:26:12 GMT -5
The differences between D/H and W/H are so nit-picky.
Its almost like there's some admin. clerk sat next to the =I=, saying
"No sir! You can't have the Leman Russ Exterminator, but there's one with a battle cannon just down the road, if you wait another ten minutes. What was that , sir? No, sir! You can't have Crusader Henchmen, they belong to the Hereticus, sir...."
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Post by blackarmchair on Sept 15, 2009 9:33:39 GMT -5
Okay, fair enough. I can't have the Blessed Force Weapon but everything else is legit (it's a witch hunter's inquisitor).
I'm a bit new to =][= so sorry for all the mistakes. Cheminhaler is correct the idea was to have a cc inq lord who could call down knights. But perhaps a shooty inq is more worthwhile.
I'll toy around with this...
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Post by Melissia on Sept 15, 2009 9:45:05 GMT -5
There is no such thing as a Blessed Force Weapon to begin with.
The Blessed Weapon is, itself, its own individual item. It's like saying you want a force powerfist.
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Post by cheminhaler on Sept 15, 2009 10:20:55 GMT -5
The thing is that its too confusing having a W/H =I= lord with a Daemonhunter army AND IG allies. For one thing drop the Vindicare and one Stormtrooper squad to give you the 2nd IG platoon.
It sounds like a good plan with the teleport homer(s), but the =I= lord still has too much wargear. If you want a psyker inquisitor then just some termie armour, a force weapon, psychic hood and a psychic power should suffice.
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Sept 15, 2009 15:59:52 GMT -5
well...and Cloak of St. Aspira is for Sororitas Heroines only
you can take a force weapon but a blessed weapon is again Sororitas Heroines only...
what you might want a master crafted force weapon, that is legit.
(and btw a blessed weapon is a master crafted power weapon to begin with, along with the added bonus of boosting the users STR by 2)
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Post by Melissia on Sept 16, 2009 8:38:21 GMT -5
that's what I said above...
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Post by blackarmchair on Sept 16, 2009 9:22:01 GMT -5
Yeah, I've been re-working the whole damn thing.
+ Grey Knights Grand Master [420]
- Wargear: Icon of the Just, Master-Crafted Nemisis Force Weapon (30)
- Retinue: 5x GKT (1 with Incinerator) (245)
- Land Raider Transport [220]
+ Inquisitor [228]
- Wargear: Teleport Homer, Icon of the Just, Power Armor, Bolt Pistol (62)
- Retinue: 3x Veteran Guardsmen with Plasmaguns, 2x Acolytes (76)
- Inquisitorial Chimera with MuL & HB (85)
+ Vindicare Assassin [110]
+ Inquisitorial Storm Troopers [209]
- 1x Storm Trooper Sgt w/ Teleport Homer
- 6x Storm Troopers w/ kraks (2 with Meltaguns) (104)
- Inquisitorial Chimera with MuL & HB (85)
+ Inquisitorial Storm Troopers [209]
- 1x Storm Trooper Sgt w/ Teleport Homer
- 6x Storm Troopers w/ kraks (2 with Meltaguns) (104)
- Inquisitorial Chimera with MuL & HB (85)
+ Imperial Guard Infantry Platoon
- Platoon Command Squad: 4x Grenade Launchers (50)
- Infantry Squad: 1x Flamer, 1x Missile Launcher (70)
- Infantry Squad: 1x Flamer, 1x Missile Launcher (70)
- Heavy Weapons Squad: 3x Lascannons (105)
+ Grey Knights [230]
- Justicar with Icon of the Just (65)
- 6x Grey Knights (1 with Incinerator) (165)
- Teleport Squad
+ Lance Strike [70]
Total: 2006
I hope I'm not breaking any rules. I'm really liking =][= all around, anyone more experience have any advice?
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Post by Melissia on Sept 16, 2009 11:56:00 GMT -5
Inquisitorial stormtroopers suck for any reason other than to deliver special weapons. They break easily (even easier than 5th edition guardsmen), they're generally overpriced (Sisters are one point more per model and they get power armor, bolters, and better rules) for what they do.
So prepare to lose far more often than not, unless your opponents just aren't that great, seeing how you're focusing on them.
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Sept 16, 2009 12:54:56 GMT -5
that's what I said above... You did, though for some reason I felt the need to unnecessarily reiterate in a more direct fashion. |
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Post by cheminhaler on Sept 18, 2009 8:48:04 GMT -5
The beautiful thing about the W/H codex is that stormies can be Arbites as well.
Plus less confusion now that stormies are different in the IG codex - but shotguns are very short range.
I also own 5 GK terminators with an incinerator. Good choice!
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Post by blackarmchair on Sept 18, 2009 10:36:26 GMT -5
Yeah, my choices are limited. I have VERY little in the way of =][= right now.
To respond to Melissia, the reason I took the stormies wasn't because they're any good my reasoning was twofold:
1. They can have teleport homers
2. They're about my only troop choices at the moment...
Mostly number 2.
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