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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on May 13, 2010 11:41:02 GMT -5
I kinda like the FW Exorcist more anyway... pipe organs on the battlefield just don't do anything for me. This is sorta how I feel about this... Until they come out with something new and exciting anyway. Magic 8-ball says, no luck on the Guard front for another while. But... S&M Eldar!!! *Drools....*
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on May 13, 2010 11:53:14 GMT -5
Actually, now that I think about it, it might be cheaper to buy some stuff from Forgeworld then GW... Reds That's one of the saddest things I can imagine. Resin is cheap, but polystyrene is a lot cheaper. ... And the US prices are going up, why? I thought it was a GB thing. Not that I'm surprised, mind you... Correct me if I'm wrong, but we're still feeling the effects of a recession. As in: people don't have the kind of expendible income they used to, and budgets are still tight. I know it's not just me. Now, it seems to me that GW and their price hikes aren't choosing the best road available. I'd think they'd get a bit more net revenue if they didn't raise the prices to make a single box of minis complete with the cost of things like... food... insurance... other important mandatory bills...
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Post by Melissia on May 13, 2010 12:49:04 GMT -5
The FW Immolator is roughly the same price as the GW one, though I prefer hwo the GW one looks. Still, I can sell my GW exorcists at ten bucks off of the price listed in GW's store, and then buy three FW exorcists, and make a profit off of it. S&H included.
I think I'm going to be doing that.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on May 13, 2010 13:41:02 GMT -5
The FW Immolator is roughly the same price as the GW one, though I prefer hwo the GW one looks. Still, I can sell my GW exorcists at ten bucks off of the price listed in GW's store, and then buy three FW exorcists, and make a profit off of it. S&H included. I think I'm going to be doing that. When life hands you lemons... ... shove some explosive in there, and throw 'em right back!
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Post by Rolling Thunder on May 13, 2010 14:19:53 GMT -5
The FW Immolator is roughly the same price as the GW one, though I prefer hwo the GW one looks. Still, I can sell my GW exorcists at ten bucks off of the price listed in GW's store, and then buy three FW exorcists, and make a profit off of it. S&H included. I think I'm going to be doing that. When life hands you lemons... ... shove some explosive in there, and throw 'em right back! When life hands me lemons, I set fire to the lemons.
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Post by Makarova (M.I.A) on May 13, 2010 14:20:45 GMT -5
What's wrong with lemons?
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Post by cheminhaler on May 13, 2010 14:29:15 GMT -5
They're bitter.
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Post by Makarova (M.I.A) on May 13, 2010 14:49:28 GMT -5
But then you mix them with sugar and make lemonade out of them.
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Post by Melissia on May 13, 2010 17:08:54 GMT -5
So GW customers should feel empathy towards them.
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Post by Rolling Thunder on May 13, 2010 17:49:08 GMT -5
So GW customers should feel empathy towards them. That would require a soul, and most of us lost that the Gav Thorpe a long time ago.
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Post by Melissia on May 13, 2010 18:30:48 GMT -5
Or never had one in the first place, like yourself? Come on, you know you walked right into that one
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Post by Thunderbolt on May 14, 2010 0:54:26 GMT -5
i think i need to do an inventory and make a list of my last purchases from GW. other than some forgeworld stuff i will build what i need myself.
what hurts me the most is that my LGS will suffer more than GW will. most of the players are strapped for cash already.
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Post by terminus on May 14, 2010 2:59:35 GMT -5
I never understood their pricing policy. The excuse that it's to compensate for VAT is horsenuts. Their last financial report stated they make a 400% profit on their plastics. I wonder why they don't realize that if their crap was cheaper, it'd be flying off the shelves. Everyone would have one of every army, and new players wouldn't have heart attacks when they realize it takes half a thousand dollars to put a decent army together.
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Post by Rolling Thunder on May 15, 2010 21:27:29 GMT -5
Or never had one in the first place, like yourself? Come on, you know you walked right into that one I'm not entirely sure what there was to walk into. Aside from the fact I make you Ld7. Another thing on the pricing policy: It's retarded. Seriously. It's like the people deciding it all failed basic economics! Right, gents, we have a low variable cost of production, and a high fixed cost. What should we do: (Logical solution): Market the product to ensure the maximum quantity sold, absorbing the fixed costs (basically, for every unit sold, the overall cost to GW will be lowered) by sheer law of averages! (GW): Sell it for as high a price as the consumer will buy and use the high revenue to support a bloated corporate structure! .....profit maximisation? Also, take a recent example - the chimera. Now, if anything should be going up in price, it is the chimera IFV. The new GW codex has made the chimera stupidly, stupidly cheap and insanely good. Move it's price up to £25 and people will still buy it to make Guard armies, and you will gain far more revenue. Now, take something that actually did rise in price - the Guard infantry squad. Now, there is no need for this. There's no new model, so the fixed costs have not changed, unless the cost of plastic just skyrocketed. And the stupid, stupid thing is, with veterans being troops, you merely encourage Guard players to buy fewer models and play mechanised with those cheap chimeras, meaning less revenue for GW and thus lower profits. GW's stratagem of elite armies and special characters being favoured is illogical. Special character models are universally metal (So the materials are expensive), have to be molded new (adding high costs to them) and a consumer will only ever buy one of them (unlike, say, a chimera, of which they will buy twelve) meaning you;ve got a high-cost, low-revenue, low-profit investment. Elite armies are the same. For about £110, I can buy a few squads of Death Company and some Honour Guard from Dark Sphere, put Dante in their and call them a BA successors version of the old-honour Guard list. Or just pure Honour Guard straight-from-box. Super-effective cookie cutter list, but brutishly effective and immensely cheap.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on May 15, 2010 21:31:21 GMT -5
I never understood their pricing policy. The excuse that it's to compensate for VAT is horsenuts. Their last financial report stated they make a 400% profit on their plastics. I wonder why they don't realize that if their crap was cheaper, it'd be flying off the shelves. Everyone would have one of every army, and new players wouldn't have heart attacks when they realize it takes half a thousand dollars to put a decent army together. Obviously, they're weeding out the weak hobbyists. *cough, hack, wheeze*
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Post by shugotenshi47 on May 22, 2010 1:49:02 GMT -5
I still haven't recovered from the last time they raised the prices. I think I'm not going to buy anything for a long while. Got less frustrating and more competitively priced hobbies to funnel my money into.
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Post by Happyorange on May 22, 2010 3:54:50 GMT -5
They assume that everyone will keep buying their products through the price rises. Every price rise, more people quit, less people join, and the hard-core people buy less. Even if the rises are completely necessary, they will be making an long-term loss.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on May 22, 2010 12:23:19 GMT -5
They hope that after a month or so, people will forget the prices used to be cheaper.
An elephant never forgets. And neither does a GW customer.
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Post by Rolling Thunder on May 22, 2010 12:53:29 GMT -5
They hope that after a month or so, people will forget the prices used to be cheaper. An elephant never forgets. And neither does a GW customer. What's the difference between an elephant and a GW customer?
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Post by Julian Sharps on May 22, 2010 14:18:22 GMT -5
They hope that after a month or so, people will forget the prices used to be cheaper. An elephant never forgets. And neither does a GW customer. What's the difference between an elephant and a GW customer? GW doesn't farm its customers for their ivory?
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on May 23, 2010 10:56:38 GMT -5
But we are being poached. And there's no game warden.
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Post by Happyorange on May 23, 2010 11:10:19 GMT -5
Hmmm... that's deep, man.
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Post by Julian Sharps on May 23, 2010 12:28:38 GMT -5
Fine. Here's another possibility: 99.9% of elephants don't play Spess Mahreens or Tau?
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Post by Rolling Thunder on May 23, 2010 14:23:20 GMT -5
Elephants are protected.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on May 23, 2010 15:17:39 GMT -5
Then they obviously still play an Imperial army, because the Emperor protects.
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