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Post by Kommissar Orren on Jul 2, 2010 15:18:05 GMT -5
The Apocalypse book claims, and I quote, "The Battle for Macragge was the largest and most desperate battle fought on the Eastern Fringe... The entire Ultramarines Chapter, hundreds of regiments..." Not all may have fought at the same battlefield at the same time, but they were all fighiting behemoth at the same time at Macragge(i.e. deployed same palce same time). Acoording to Apcoalapse at least. Though GW's reliability on fluff isn't that good. They contradict, or change it themselves constantly.
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Post by John_Galt (M.I.A) on Jul 2, 2010 15:21:33 GMT -5
Well how about that
I think that's a brainfart on GW's part, but the apoc book is pretty recent, so they might have retconned it without me knowing
I never bought the Apoc book because regular games are long enough lol
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Post by Gree on Jul 2, 2010 15:31:44 GMT -5
Alright then. As for entire chapters deployed the Mortifactors went off to Armageddon in their entierty. The Scythes fought Hive Fleet Kraken and lost. The Ultramarines assembled at Macragge. The Eye of Terror rulebook mentioned a few chapters assembling in their entirety.
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Post by Kommissar Orren on Jul 2, 2010 15:38:46 GMT -5
The Codex refers to the Emperor's Swords being wiped out to a man on their chapter world by necrons. That kinda counts, as they were all there.
It also refers to the Flame Lords Chapter delpoying to avenge them, but it doesn't specifically say the whole chapter. (Though they apparently won, so i assume it is.)
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Jul 2, 2010 16:05:29 GMT -5
Chapter Master Elton John? Chief Librarian Mercury?
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Post by Gree on Jul 2, 2010 16:22:22 GMT -5
It's the Fire Lords actually.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Jul 2, 2010 16:31:14 GMT -5
Spoilsport. The Flame Lords chapter wouldn't go on crusades, they'd go on tour.
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Post by Kommissar Orren on Jul 2, 2010 16:53:41 GMT -5
Fire, Flame. meh, they are just different versions of the same word. But yes, what you said.
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Post by RedsandRoyals on Jul 2, 2010 16:58:40 GMT -5
There was also mention of a whole chapter hitting an Eldar Craftworld in the SM Codex.
Reds
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Post by Kommissar Orren on Jul 2, 2010 18:45:01 GMT -5
Yeah, I saw that. As I recall, they never tried doing that again because of the severe losses suffered. (I don't remember where I read that. It was either about SMs assaulting a Craftworld, or IG. anyways, there wre extreme losses, and wasn't considered worth losing that many men.)
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Post by Gree on Jul 2, 2010 21:56:11 GMT -5
What you are referring to is the Imperium's attempt to destroy a Craftworld in the Blood Nebula (The Rulebook) they lost a Segmentum fleet and army doing so. The Invaders were the chapter that took out another, unrelated craftworld. (The Tyranid codex actually notes that the craftworld in question was already weakened by the nids before the Invaders attacked)
And in Path of the Warrior the Imperium invades another craftworld.
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Post by Gabriel Lupus on Jul 3, 2010 5:46:52 GMT -5
I was more refering to that you wouldn't often see an entire company fighting on the same battlefield - maybe on the same world/system of worlds, but not the same battlefield.
I'm sure there probably are some instances where companies (and apparently chapters) have been deployed, but still in 10,000 years of history, there aren't that many are there.
Guardsmen/regiments on the other hand frequently get deployed to the same battlefield/engagement - generally with other regiments too. I was just pointing out that Guardsmen get deployed in greater number (obviously) and at higher group levels than Marines - which is why it's strange that we see it so often in things like computer games. But that's the medium of computer games I suppose.
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Post by Melissia on Jul 3, 2010 12:26:32 GMT -5
Lol, way to go off on a tangent.
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Post by RedsandRoyals on Jul 3, 2010 13:24:06 GMT -5
What you are referring to is the Imperium's attempt to destroy a Craftworld in the Blood Nebula (The Rulebook) they lost a Segmentum fleet and army doing so. The Invaders were the chapter that took out another, unrelated craftworld. (The Tyranid codex actually notes that the craftworld in question was already weakened by the nids before the Invaders attacked) And in Path of the Warrior the Imperium invades another craftworld. I was referring to the Invaders, since that's the only one relevant to the discussion of Marines deploying in Chapter force. Reds
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Post by Gree on Jul 3, 2010 13:58:24 GMT -5
I was actually talking to Orren.
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Post by Gabriel Lupus on Jul 5, 2010 10:07:38 GMT -5
ah tangents... don't you just love them...
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Jul 5, 2010 11:19:19 GMT -5
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Post by Kommissar Orren on Jul 5, 2010 13:24:56 GMT -5
Line CD is tangent to both circle A, and Circle B. And yes, I just realizd I remembered some of that geometry.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Jul 5, 2010 20:10:54 GMT -5
But if given the length of CD, could you solve for the circumference of Circle A?
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Post by Kommissar Orren on Jul 5, 2010 21:29:36 GMT -5
No, there isn't a formula or proof for that.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Jul 5, 2010 21:43:43 GMT -5
Ah, right. Then the length of SD and the angle of EAB.
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Post by Adam Selene on Jul 5, 2010 21:46:42 GMT -5
If you extend lines CD and EB angle EAB can swivel like a drunk disco fiend. Also shouldn't their be more right angles?
Back on topic: why can't GW take the resources it uses for making these video games and put them in models instead, a bunch of pixels is no match for a finely crafted and painted model
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Jul 5, 2010 22:56:27 GMT -5
Sitting on one's bum, and clicking a mouse is a lot less work. If people don't want to paint their Ultramarines, how can they be expected to get mom or dad to drive them to the store to play all the time?
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Post by Melissia on Jul 6, 2010 0:05:32 GMT -5
And therefor be more tempted to buy all the time?
The reason GW licenses games is because it's profitable.
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Post by Adam Selene on Jul 15, 2010 22:37:27 GMT -5
And therefor be more tempted to buy all the time? The reason GW licenses games is because it's profitable. In the same way the pornographic industry is profitable, but its just pixels, no match for the real deal, hear me GW, no match for the real deal!
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