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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Aug 4, 2011 12:36:35 GMT -5
If you want the greatest curry known to man, then accept Rook's offer of that plane ticket, come crash in England, and the three of us [four, if I rope in Makawolf] will have dinner at my place. I would if could be assured that it wouldn't interfere with my priorities. I'll have to see what it looks like a year from now.
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Aug 4, 2011 14:32:02 GMT -5
I know it's not really a workout, but just came back from a brisk half hour of dancing. Probably burnt off a little fat, and was bloody good fun.
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Post by cheminhaler on Aug 4, 2011 14:41:34 GMT -5
Years ago I did some martial arts and what's interesting is that all martial arts have different approaches to fitness.
On one end of the spectrum was kick-boxing, which was 100% about fitness; there was running, squats, stretching, squat thrusts - in fact 1/3 of the lesson was a big workout.
On the other end was Wing Chun kung fu. I want to go back to this one day, but don't have time or money right now. There was no fitness training at all - you get given ten minutes to do your own preparation and stretching (no group instruction), but the style is very, very slow. Under Grandmaster Kan it would take up to 20 years of training to even be allowed to start butterfly sword instuction. Also you have to stand in this painful stance all lesson, which really builds yoour legs up too. I did this for 6 months.. about 12 years ago.
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Aug 4, 2011 15:39:13 GMT -5
Did another workout. I've gone from six press-ups to four, but yet my fornicateing arms don't hurt!? The fĂșck is with that. Busted my knee a little with the squats, but managed sixteen sit-ups, and now enoying a little warmdown with "eye of the tiger".
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Post by Walrus on Aug 4, 2011 18:25:36 GMT -5
I find it funny the ad at the bottom of the Thread is 'I got ripped in 4 weeks'.
My lats are a bit sore from yesterday, but otherwise I feel fine, which is good seeing as I'm playing rugby for sport at around 9 am this morning... In around 10 degrees C
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Aug 4, 2011 18:29:03 GMT -5
I find it funny the ad at the bottom of the Thread is 'I got ripped in 4 weeks'. My lats are a bit sore from yesterday, but otherwise I feel fine, which is good seeing as I'm playing rugby for sport at around 9 am this morning... In around 10 degrees C Clearly fiction. Everyone knows that it never gets that cold in the Outback.
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Post by Walrus on Aug 4, 2011 18:30:36 GMT -5
Yes, of course it's fiction. It was actually a toasty 45 degrees C in the middle of the night, and getting warmer as the sun rises.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Aug 4, 2011 18:32:15 GMT -5
I knew it. You can't fool me.
Now, off to a snowball fight with Putin. Because it's always snowing in Mother Russia.
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Post by Walrus on Aug 4, 2011 18:38:20 GMT -5
Watch out for the vodka. It's probably anti-freeze because they can't afford actual vodka.
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Post by Rook on Aug 4, 2011 19:18:13 GMT -5
My legs are sore today but this overriding sense of duty has been nagging at my mind..."you want to train, you want to get better". I like these thoughts. Tonight I'm going to tackle the 'savages'. I've already almost lost a belt size. More like half a belt size. I've also been adding things to read and updates in the three initial posts on this thread. As always your input is wanted. Congrats on RT, Walrus, 3ffect taking action. Too bad we can't be training partners right now as I know you guys would keep me driven. cheminhaler: What martial art do recommend? I have my ideas but would like some suggestions.
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Post by Walrus on Aug 5, 2011 2:34:28 GMT -5
We can be training partners... We have the technology.
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Post by 3ff3ct on Aug 5, 2011 3:10:08 GMT -5
Yeah we can post our pre-exersice war faces to get you pumped up And amusing videos of myself hobbling downstairs like a 90 year old lady as my legs ache ;D I did some gardening last night instead of a run. Gardening involving a pick axe and tree stumps, just so were clear, no gentle weeding for me yet!
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Aug 5, 2011 6:29:33 GMT -5
What martial art do recommend? I have my ideas but would like some suggestions. For you? Definitely Muay Thai or Krav Manga. Lots of direct blows, emphasis on brute force, speed, resilience and force of will, and an incredibly good workout.
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Post by Walrus on Aug 5, 2011 7:47:36 GMT -5
Bleh, work at 5 in the morning... No workout for me tonight, but I get a good upper body excersize at work lifting up to 60 kilos.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Aug 5, 2011 9:52:09 GMT -5
Rook, why don't you take up fencing? Despite not looking like much of a workout, it actually is when you do it for an hour or two at a time. Fantastic for the legs and heart.
Also, it seems your 'savages' are like burpees without the squat part. That'll get you tired quickly... (I have no idea who named them, but the person was clearly not imaginative enough).
I notice that you're not doing much for your core muscles. You should incorporate that into everything. When you do pushups, alternate bringing each knee up to an elbow, performing a Spiderman-like move. When you do a crunch, alternate bringing a knee toward your chest. When you do lunges, hold one of your dumbells out in an extended hand, alternating by set. Same thing with the squat exercises you're already doing - do your hands individually. If/when you do pullups, wrap a towel over the bar, and hang from the towel by one hand with the other on the bar, alternate that. That also exercises your grip.
Basically anything to do, do it so that you have to work to maintain even posture with your middle - that'll give your sets of abs a constant workout, and Western societies seem to have forgotten that the core is the most powerful prime mover in our bodies when combined with any activity; we basically just work arms, chest, and thighs. Add the core muscles to that, and you can throw a grown man across a room.
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Post by Rook on Aug 5, 2011 12:54:57 GMT -5
Rook, why don't you take up fencing? Despite not looking like much of a workout, it actually is when you do it for an hour or two at a time. Fantastic for the legs and heart. I notice that you're not doing much for your core muscles. You should incorporate that into everything. When you do pushups, alternate bringing each knee up to an elbow, performing a Spiderman-like move. When you do a crunch, alternate bringing a knee toward your chest. When you do lunges, hold one of your dumbells out in an extended hand, alternating by set. Same thing with the squat exercises you're already doing - do your hands individually. If/when you do pullups, wrap a towel over the bar, and hang from the towel by one hand with the other on the bar, alternate that. That also exercises your grip. Basically anything to do, do it so that you have to work to maintain even posture with your middle - that'll give your sets of abs a constant workout, and Western societies seem to have forgotten that the core is the most powerful prime mover in our bodies when combined with any activity; we basically just work arms, chest, and thighs. Add the core muscles to that, and you can throw a grown man across a room. I may take fencing. I'd need to scour the internet for classes here in Phoenix Metro. As per 'the core' that's what bridges and crunches are for(I get masochistic with my crunches. So much that when I even cough the next day it hurts. LOL). I can't imagine a better core workout than those two. Yet as with all things...I'll give it a try. I'm trying to work as many body parts in the fewest number of routines with the '12's'. The 12s were taken directly from Muscle Fitness magazine yet I think they still aren't enough for a 40 year old.
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Post by cheminhaler on Aug 5, 2011 13:26:37 GMT -5
What martial art do recommend? I have my ideas but would like some suggestions. For you? Definitely Muay Thai or Krav Manga. Lots of direct blows, emphasis on brute force, speed, resilience and force of will, and an incredibly good workout. It all depends what you want - fitness or killing ability. Muay Thai is hardcore Thai kickboxing with an emphasis on fitness. It's more of an arena sport (like boxing), although there is hardcore conditioning. In Thailand you have to kick a banana tree down with your legs, I've heard. They give you a whole day to do it... :/ Krav Maga is a killer special forces martial art that teaches a bit of everything: grappling, punching, using objects as weapons, and it goes all the way up to pistols and assault rifles (depending on your national laws obviously). Instead of fencing give Historical European martial arts a go. Here is a link to a class in Phoenix, Arizona that teaches Fiore Dei Liberi longsword: www.meetup.com/Schola-dei-Fiore/Dei Liberi was a weapon master in 1450(ish) who wrote combat instuction manuals for various weapons, notably longsword, but he taught other weapons as well.
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Post by Rook on Aug 5, 2011 14:24:49 GMT -5
I spent some money on SCARS/HCS back in the day and really liked the look of it despite all the hatred for it online. If I were to hazard a guess I would say it resembles Krav Maga quite a bit. The thing with SCARS is that you don't just throw punches, you attack targets. Most of the art's detractors don't realize this. And from the hundreds of hours of watching the UFC and other types of sports there really are 'auto-kinematic' reactions. Another item the detractors never mention.
For a fighting form I will not need anything with weapon retention training. At the risk of sounding badass I'm fairly good with this as is. I have to be, I'm always packing. Although if there is anything new to learn I shall. I really need like judo or some such. An art that allows me to throw people around. Also will need some floor art. Maybe just wrestling(which I suck at), or dare I say...Brazilian Jujitsu. Ideally an art that incorporates all of this with out a belt system. I don't care about ranks and in the immortal words of my buddy Joel "anyone can get got".
I just finished watching a dozen videos on Krav Maga. The inane comments on youtube videos make me laugh. Anyways, the art seems pretty rudimentary(which I don't mind).
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Aug 5, 2011 15:43:16 GMT -5
Crunches are great, but only work one group in one direction. If you want to be the most badass human scissor, then you only need that. For all-around ab-ittude, you need to work everything.
The trouble with martial arts is, we're post Karate Kid now. The 80's was a great time for hack karate studios and the like to prey on the coolness of martial arts for western kids, and then people got wise to the ones that were bunk. I notice a resurgence of this sort of thing with the popularity of MMA and similar, and they're smarter this time around. I don't really have a suggestion, other than to follow your instincts about where you learn things from, and that even a sloppy instruction of basics can be helpful to someone who has an understanding of physics and anatomy.
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Post by Rook on Aug 5, 2011 16:47:52 GMT -5
Crunches are great, but only work one group in one direction. If you want to be the most badass human scissor, then you only need that. For all-around ab-ittude, you need to work everything. True. Though the crunches I do are not the normal ones...they resemble this; exercise.about.com/od/abs/ss/abexercises.htmand this; exercise.about.com/od/abs/ss/abexercises_4.htmadd both of those to the bridge/plank and you can see why I know my core is being well worked.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Aug 5, 2011 16:53:16 GMT -5
Also, you could try writing the alphabet with your feet while doing your plank thing. I challenge you!
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Post by Rook on Aug 5, 2011 17:47:46 GMT -5
Also, you could try writing the alphabet with your feet while doing your plank thing. I challenge you! I don't normally accept challenges but you, Sir...are on! Now my challenge to you; do 10 'savages' as fast as you can. I have no idea as to your conditioning you may be able to do many more, but alas that is the challenge.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Aug 5, 2011 20:46:34 GMT -5
Also, you could try writing the alphabet with your feet while doing your plank thing. I challenge you! I don't normally accept challenges but you, Sir...are on! Now my challenge to you; do 10 'savages' as fast as you can. I have no idea as to your conditioning you may be able to do many more, but alas that is the challenge. 40.6 seconds, complete with a wobble at number three to catch my balance - I'm not used to jumping around next to the staircase.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Aug 7, 2011 1:53:29 GMT -5
I've completely cut out coke and sugar in my coffee/tea, though I still consume some sweet things. Just noticed this on a re-read. Commas are important.
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Post by Walrus on Aug 8, 2011 6:34:28 GMT -5
I've been doing an intense amount of cardio training recently, to prepare for the school sports carnival. I tend to run to techno, and have been using this. However, I just found this. EARGASM. I took my staffy/bull terrier running with this playing and puffed him out.
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