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Post by Peter Cooman on Jun 4, 2012 15:20:08 GMT -5
Hey there fellow painters!
Just a question on the army painter quickshade line.
I'm having troubles keeping up on my painting lately, with my left eye not cooperating as good as it used to, and time being scarce. I have seen a drop in productivity as it is just hard to paint something up with all that's going on.
That's why i was looking in on the quickshade stuff.
It looks like it could get me back on track, but it feels a bit like cheating to me. It's not a work of art dipping your models in a tin and shaking them off.(i'll be painting it on actually, i don't want a big goo on my minis) I am proud of what i paint,and i just don't want to get comments like:
-Hey they look good! How did you do that?
me: Army painter
-Ow no wonder, it's the easy stuff.
Now that would just make me sad.
Also i am a little scared my models that i painted until now will not fit with the quickshade look.
Any thoughts on this?
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Post by AshotNINJA on Jun 4, 2012 19:42:55 GMT -5
im pretty sure thats a non issue... no one would think badly if you used it... as long as the end result is a good looking mini then theres no problem at all... to be honest, the quickshaders are not alot different than washing... and we all love to wash... its a good way to add shading, and thats not considered cheating...
i say... go for it.
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Post by Cosmic on Jun 5, 2012 3:27:49 GMT -5
If you're using it to keep up productivity with your gaming army, use it.
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Post by Peter Cooman on Jun 5, 2012 5:45:40 GMT -5
Well if the two best painters on here say so  The only worry left is if i will get any satisfaction out of painting them... |
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Post by Gerner on Jun 5, 2012 7:08:01 GMT -5
I think the quick shade is good for horde armies and helping people who might struggle with some of the painting, but as the others said, it's not far from washes. I do think that you can only hope to achieve a certain amount with the quick shade, they have its limit in the form that you can get better results without it, but when we are talking tabletop standards (and the good kind) then they are perfect. I do suggest buying a small pot first and trying it out before you go bananas with your money.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2012 14:43:06 GMT -5
Hmm how does quickshade work ?
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Post by Cosmic on Jun 5, 2012 14:44:37 GMT -5
You basically paint in all the block colours and then dip them in quickshade.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2012 14:45:47 GMT -5
WOW awesome
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Post by BG. Foster on Jun 5, 2012 14:47:11 GMT -5
It's cheating Peter, only joking. If it gets you back in to it go for it. I've painted 50 guardsmen in the last 2 years
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Post by Peter Cooman on Jun 5, 2012 14:47:24 GMT -5
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Post by optimat on Jun 5, 2012 15:29:39 GMT -5
If you're using it to keep up productivity with your gaming army, use it. Now, not to dismiss as others have said, but this ^ really does put it down perfectly. It's true, I dont think you will get the satisfaction out of it, and could end up getting a little boring after the 50th Guardsman you dip in a pot. That said this is my first army of this size and I'm already flustered by the amount I need to paint, and if I wasn't in to this hobby for the exact reason that it will take me ages to finish painting my army - and I was in it just to get some quick games on the go - I would be on something like this in a flash without remorse. |
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Post by BG. Foster on Jun 5, 2012 15:35:15 GMT -5
What you have to consider though Optimat is the scale of what you have to paint. I currently have somewhere in the region of 400 - 500 guardsmen (I'd know if I counted) I have collected these over the last 5 years or so. Of those I have only painted 50, this is due to work, family and other issues. I would love to sit down and paint 10 a night and I used to, I simply can't. By the time I get back from college have something to eat and put the kids to bed my wife wants some attention.
I personally would go down Peter's route if I wanted to get some painted, to be honest though I enjoy buying them more than anything at the moment. lol
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Post by Gerner on Jun 5, 2012 16:04:47 GMT -5
Also, I would rather play against a quick shaded army than either a horrible painted army (because of the stress) or a non painted army. |
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Post by BG. Foster on Jun 5, 2012 16:17:23 GMT -5
Don't play me then Gerner, lol
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Post by Peter Cooman on Jun 5, 2012 16:17:38 GMT -5
Well in response to optimat: I have a 2500 point fully painted csm army i have a 3000+ painted fantasy orc and goblin army I have about 2000 points of painted vc 2 or three fully painted lotr armies. and now i have my guard who are multiplying every time i turn my back  I've had my fair share of painting by hand. I still enjoy it, but like Foster, my time is limited. I too have a job, house to maintain and a 3 year old. My family to visit in the weekend, wifes family and others. Among me and my wife and her sisters, we have 6 kids. So birthday party's, school plays and all other stuff to go to, not including trips you make for the kids to dentists doctors, or if they have a hobby of their own. The older you get, the more responsabilities and duties. Hoby time tends to shrink. I'm told by friends it will get back once the kids are out of the house. So during the next 15-20 years or so, i'll consider any option that saves time |
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Post by BG. Foster on Jun 5, 2012 16:22:03 GMT -5
I got really excited about painting when I found out I'd got a week off college until I remembered my oldest son was coming to stay. Having not seen him for a month or so this excited me even more but alas no guardsmen will get painted. I have less time now than I did when I was a carefree singleton and I was out drinking 5 nights a week back then.
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Post by Peter Cooman on Jun 5, 2012 16:25:56 GMT -5
It's just the way it is. We can't have it all can we  |
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Post by BG. Foster on Jun 5, 2012 16:27:09 GMT -5
My son painted though, lol. It was some old battle master figures though.
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Post by Peter Cooman on Jun 5, 2012 16:29:22 GMT -5
Maybe we can train our sons to paint the minis for us, so we can relax and have a drink while the army practically paints itself. *looks at sons drawings from preschool* On second thought, i think the quickshade would be better |
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Post by Cosmic on Jun 5, 2012 16:31:56 GMT -5
Oooooorrr send all your models to meeeeeeee  |
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Post by Gerner on Jun 5, 2012 16:32:50 GMT -5
Don't play me then Gerner, lol I don't even have an army! |
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Post by BG. Foster on Jun 5, 2012 16:33:14 GMT -5
Ha, if your going to paint for free they're in the post already
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Post by Peter Cooman on Jun 5, 2012 16:34:47 GMT -5
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Post by 3ff3ct on Jun 16, 2012 14:32:46 GMT -5
Back on topic: I wouldn't look down on anyone who used quickshade. Personally, I'd rather airbrush on a wash than the coat, dry, dullcoat thing although I do already have an airbrush.... Personal choice You're going in the right direction though; a fully painted army is somewhat a rarity nowadays, and having more of them, by whatever means, can only be a good thing So what if you don't do it all with a brush? You'll have a great looking army anyway! And you can always add more detail in the future if you feel like it |
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Post by Pyrotechnics on Jun 30, 2012 21:46:49 GMT -5
I've always just thought of quickshade as another kind of wash.
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