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Post by syphon on Oct 17, 2012 12:22:15 GMT -5
First one looks like a cross between an M16 and WH's autogun. Barrel looks a bit small to me. Second one looks like the bastard child of an Aliens pulse rifle and a riot shotgun. Not too shabby.  Wimminz partz!  |
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Post by Ponen19 on Oct 17, 2012 12:55:29 GMT -5
I like the second one. It has that Alien/Starship Trooper look to it. Any chance you could do a underslung grenade launcher instead of the shotgun?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 11:55:02 GMT -5
Here's an update on the weapon designs. I've taken your input and made some adjustments. Overall I'm much happier with them. I'd love to know your thoughts...  |
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Post by Empirespy on Oct 18, 2012 12:19:21 GMT -5
I love them both, although I personally preferred the first second one (if that makes sense!).
The revisions the the first one is definitely much better in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 13:08:48 GMT -5
I love them both, although I personally preferred the first second one (if that makes sense!). It does indeed, I got some feedback that an updated barrel would translate a little better on the table-top, as far as what kind of weapon it actually is...I hope that makes sense ;D Do you agree? |
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Post by syphon on Oct 18, 2012 13:55:31 GMT -5
Robot, I have a question about the price of your heads.
I love your Sadoukadi heads, but in comparison to other bitsmakers', they are fairly expensive.
As an example: you get 20 heads for $7,2 over at Pig Iron Productions.
I get 5 heads from you for $5.
Why do customers get relatively little for that price?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking you because your stuff seems of high quality.
Is it because the kickstart of such a thing costs a lot? If so, will you lower the costs once you've started up?
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Post by Ponen19 on Oct 18, 2012 13:55:49 GMT -5
Now that looks cool. Really liking both of them now!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 14:14:59 GMT -5
Why do customers get relatively little for that price? That's a fair question and it's something I'll be addressing soon. I started pricing these in line with some other companies that are producing heads in resin. That is the main difference, resin vs. metal. I am fairly sure that Pig Iron does all their own casting and that, combined with the relative low cost of metal, allows him to save a bunch on production costs. However, I do all of my own casting with resin and after some consideration, I am rethinking my prices on these new bits. It's hard to balance between wanting to be a profitable company and wanting to offer something that many people can enjoy and afford. I've been on the consumer end of the arrangement for a long time so I understand your concerns. This subject will be addressed in short order. Thanks for voicing your concern! -Steve |
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Post by 3ff3ct on Oct 18, 2012 14:51:58 GMT -5
I really dig the 'pulse rifle' look guns, they're awesome  |
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Post by Adkenpachi on Oct 18, 2012 15:31:16 GMT -5
That picture looks like you sculpt better than GW! Do you use some form of CAD?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 15:39:31 GMT -5
LOL, not sure what to say to that...thank you  I work with Blender, which is a very cool CAD software package. |
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Post by BG. Foster on Oct 18, 2012 15:40:46 GMT -5
I think you should do some buildings. Mostly because I want some more buildings.
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Post by Trooper One-Nine-Seven-Four on Oct 18, 2012 18:05:06 GMT -5
Really digging the pulse rifle-like designs!
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Post by badgersplatter on Oct 19, 2012 4:43:31 GMT -5
The important thing for me is that they come built in with arm sets. There are so many cool looking guns out there, but they'd all be a PIA to use with guard or most other miniatures in a decent pose, so I stick with GW. If they were attached to arms for proper firing/running poses, I might be interested.
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Post by BG. Foster on Oct 19, 2012 4:47:00 GMT -5
Good point Badger.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2012 10:08:22 GMT -5
There are so many cool looking guns out there, but they'd all be a PIA to use with guard or most other miniatures in a decent pose In a general sense, I agree with you. It's hard to tell which ones will scale up properly and look the way you expect them to. I don't expect those kinds of issues with these weapons. |
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Post by syphon on Oct 19, 2012 10:35:54 GMT -5
Matching arms would be great. I bought an Elysian gun upgrade kit from FW but ended up using pretty much none of them due to the fact that I could never get the cuts right. If you market guns, arms to go with them would be nice.
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Post by 3ff3ct on Oct 19, 2012 11:15:49 GMT -5
If you market guns, arms to go with them would be nice. Hands, however, would be cheaper and easier. And I'm pretty sure no-one does that at the monent. One hand on the grip, with an optional 'holding' hand maybe? Just a creative and oddball suggestion. I am an art teacher after all.... |
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Post by badgersplatter on Oct 19, 2012 11:47:57 GMT -5
In a general sense, I agree with you. It's hard to tell which ones will scale up properly and look the way you expect them to. I don't expect those kinds of issues with these weapons. I'm not actually referring to size and scale of the guns, but more... Contact points. If you look at a standard Cadian lasgun arm pair, you have the rifle stock tucked into the arm, fingers around the trigger, left hand holding the weapon and arms of the right shape to meet them. If you supply a bare weapon, people either have to start hacking them into the stock, grip and even parts of the barrel which is a PIA - or else be stuck with awkward and unrealistic poses. Pistols however suffer from none of the above, and are as such a lot of fun to convert with! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2012 12:07:25 GMT -5
@badger: The dilemma your point presents is that for every person who argues for weapons with arms attached there are others who are asking for arms without weapons so they can attach their own.
I will be doing arm sets without any weapons attached in the near future but I'm afraid it's not feasible to reproduce a set of arms with each new weapon that I release.
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Post by syphon on Oct 19, 2012 12:28:37 GMT -5
Maybe not new arms, but it might be worth considering to make arm sets that can do all weapons?
I imagine then you'd have to design all weapons with those arms in mind, but it would certainly help your customers. Any customer that is happy is a returning customer.
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Post by AshotNINJA on Oct 19, 2012 12:54:12 GMT -5
theres never enough left hands when weapon swapping guardsmen...
if you were to produce arm set that could accomadate a lasgun sized rifle then you would be on to a real money maker... be nice with or without shoulderpads too...different pad styles? ... muscley arms perhaps... gloved , wristwatches etc... 3 types would be more than enough.
i think theres far too many conversion bits makers making weapons and not enough making alternative arms, torsos and legs ...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2012 12:58:23 GMT -5
So something like this?  |
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Post by BG. Foster on Oct 19, 2012 12:58:53 GMT -5
I've said this before and will again, I want to see left handed guardsmen. I like those though.
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Post by AshotNINJA on Oct 19, 2012 13:01:26 GMT -5
yes madrobot... very much like that... very very much like that.
you know... full torso and arm set that dont need to be postioned would be good too... in poses like they are actually aiming the weapons...then the alternative weapon just needs to have the stock and the pistol grip cut off and dropped on.
one of my least favourite parts of gw minitures is that you cant pose them to look like they are fighting... they all look more like they are hiking with guns.
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