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Post by sammy1979 on Sept 18, 2007 10:39:17 GMT -5
Basicly LOTR was there biggest earner for the period of the films, ever since then it has been a white elephant, what im trying to say is if you want your local store to make it to xmas spend some cash now, by putting in your pre-orders for apocolypse you might just save your local store, also if your off to a games day buy vouchers at your local sore boosting there sales then you can still buy all the pretties at the games day, the hobby really is in the hands of the gamer at the moment, remeber the money men wont think twice about shutting it down and i dont think the bank of England is going to step in to save GW,
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Post by Mabus on Sept 18, 2007 13:36:24 GMT -5
I am the same as Commisar, I only got into the hobby because of the LOTR.
I don't know what you lot are on about! I don't know anyone who plays 40k and not LOTR.
If LOTR is so unpolpular how come WD bother making as many articles about it as 40k?
I dunno, I might be wrong but I still think LOTR is pretty big. Most people under the age of 15 who are into GW onlt play LOTR.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2007 21:51:50 GMT -5
There is only about 10 or 12 gamers in my town and all we ever play is 40k.
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Post by Cadian 117 on Sept 19, 2007 7:34:07 GMT -5
What you should be worried about aswell is,if GW goes away or gets severly weakend will this forum stay?
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Sept 19, 2007 10:26:33 GMT -5
Damn, stfu all of you. I know loads of companies who'd like to have the financial stats of GW. Do you really think that the bit money you spent on GW stuff will do anything? GW's profits are measured in hundred thousands or millions (not sure about it right now). So if you spend 500$ (or whatever your currency is) they won't even notice. Since GW is noted at the stock exchange GW has to release their finicial stats for the public every year. If you're really worried that much you should look at those stats and decide if you should worry after that and not just because some newspaper wrote something. Every newspaper (even the big ones or financial ones make mistakes from time to time). The market right now is a bit weak. And where is the problem? That's a world wide phenomenon and do you want to say that some huge world wide soft drink producer or big operating system developer (you should know who I'm talking about in both examples) is going to go bankrupt because their stocks aren't as good as 3 months ago and someone mentioned that it isn't looking that good for them? People think before you start causing panic and posting something. And if you ask me that panic thread should be deleted
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Post by Sappmer on Sept 19, 2007 11:03:56 GMT -5
good point, i beat some GW fanatic who is not part of this forum will come on, look thru the threads, see this one, read the first couple of words and go and tell everyone that GW is closing. this should be deleted.
As of LOTR, it is actually very popularin the 10 to 13s in my town, if it wernt as popular as you make it out, then why did they make all those new releases. And on another note, GW have been making loads of new releases recently so it suggests that they are actually doing quite well for the current time (which is not the good).
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Post by Mabus on Sept 19, 2007 14:11:33 GMT -5
Nobody should listen to Knight. He's a traitor guard player, don't listen to him. Lies and secrets! Continue your panic!
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Sept 19, 2007 14:45:17 GMT -5
I have loyal Guard regiments as well Mabus. So you might listen to my words since.
I'd like to ask the mods or ops to move that thread into the private area or to delete it.
Edited for content...
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Post by Mabus on Sept 19, 2007 15:17:24 GMT -5
Alright, don't cry! If your that upset I'll delete it myself!
(By the way Knight, if you are going to have a go at me, try and make sure your post is grammatically correct. My grammar isn't the best in the world but still.)
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Sept 19, 2007 16:10:31 GMT -5
Please remember that not everyone is born as a native English writer/speaker. But right now I think that this complete thread shouldn't be in the open section of the forums. If it should be deleted or moved to the private section is up to the mods, but I think it shouldn't be open to everyone.
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Post by Commissar on Sept 19, 2007 16:13:00 GMT -5
Everybody settle the hell down.
LOTR is still pretty popular with kids, like 14 below, my buddies still play it. I play it from time to time. Its pretty cool, but they should stop sinking money into it(expanding it like crazy) and just stick to what they've got. Nobody wants to play LOTR as per the novels. Any by nobody I mean those little kiddies that just like the movies, they probly dont even know it was based on a trilogy of books, so they just look at the Ruin of Arnor and say..."What the hell is this? Who is this fruity Tom Bombadil character?" Ect. ect. Gondor in Flames seems like a way to rekindle the love of LOTR that they recieved from so many people when they first began, since alot of people seemed to love the ROTK pack, they got all hyped up on it and with the release of the new movie in theaters at the time, everybody was psyched. So maybe if they'd stop with the tarded supplements which dont seem to get much attention except by maybe, diehard fans of the book, which are far and few between, at least any of them with enough cash to buy the ridiculously priced back of crap with a few hobbits and grima ect. ect. But still...maybe if they would just stick to stuff that the younger kids know from the movies, like, stuff they are familiar with, hell, kids like crazy big seige stuff right? Alot of them went crazy over the mumakil, why not release something like...a corsair ship? Something like that, that is the type of stuff that grabs the attention of kids, they look at POTC and go "OMG OMG OMG OMG PIRATE SHIP!! I"M GONNA MAKE THE CAPTAIN LOOK LIKE JACK SPARROW!!!" and they'll buy it, and to make a jackie sparrow you need greenstuff, hobby tools, and all that stuff, so you might even make a few more bucks, let alone all the paint you'd need for that mamoth of a boat. But thats just what I think, so dont bloody well start screaming and shouting, OMG OMG OMG YOUR SOOOO STUPID, kay? Kay.
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Sept 19, 2007 16:35:07 GMT -5
This thread is only based on rumours and theoriesbut everyone is just acting like its reality. So stop it and take a look at the facts first. Economy is a bit weak right now, but that's not a problem only affecting GW. And right now this thread is, at least in my oppinion, only causing damage to the hobby and perhaps GW.
@commissar: LotR might be popular with some of the younger players but still I think it didn't pay off like it was expected. And now the costs for the LotR license is a little burden. LotR and SW ARE two of the most expensive licenses in the world and nobody can change that. But if you want to do such "what if"-scenarios please do it in the private section of the forum where only fewer people can read it and where only people can read it who understand what you want to say and for the rest I have to agree with night
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Post by Commissar on Sept 19, 2007 16:54:25 GMT -5
Yeah, but still. Its only theories, but things arent looking so bright. I guess we should wait and see. If it does close, no biggie...well...BIGGIE...but still, whatever happens happens.
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Sept 20, 2007 17:18:32 GMT -5
you guys are gonna make me get out my oldschool nintendo entertainment center that I've got hooked up to the global consciousness of mankinds mind and push the reset button just to calm everyone down aren't you? don't make me do it!!! dont...make..me... *brandishes oldschool NES with crazy wierd wiring going into strange looking futuristic devices (and a regular ol' walljack)* alright well, I'm not gonna move the thread to the private section, because what's the fun if someone visiting only sees bland topics and there's nothing that catches his eye and makes him click on a thread to see what the heck is up, if I had to move it, I'd consider the rumors or underhive for a new home for it, but really, I'm fine with it residing here. when we, as a community, begin to master the art of staying on topic I'll consider moving posts that are incorrectly titled to the right forum, but at this point in the forums laid back existence, all I can say is relax, take a deep breath, don't worry about political correctness or whether a topic title is scary or controversial or not and just say to yourself: "game on" then carry on. I have to personally thank you knight, for editing the flames out of your post and for quashing that disagreement before it got going to much - good on you, my thanks for making my job as a moddissar easier getting on with our off topic topic: (heh) I wouldn't say that LotR is such a failure. honestly, if I had to get into a fantasy era tabletop wargame, I would definately consider LotR. while it doesn't have the scale that WHFB has (which is really one of the big draws to the game - the scale of it, that is) LotR DOES have the 100% skirmisher feel that 40k has - it seems like it's essentially 40k but with swords and bows. I really like this as there feels like far more freedom and flexibility in the game vs. having movement trays of dudes that are all part of a big block of faceless nameless troops who are better represented by a number than models. don't get me wrong, I think fantasy has some great stuff to it, but it just seems like a far more unflexible game than how LotR looks to be (as far as manoeuvering on the battlefield). I guess I'm a fan of the 40k style of movement where all the models are individual dudes and not so much of the 'blocks of troops' of fantasy battle that have to stay in lockstep and are harder to move dynamically with (what with having to be in formation and spend movement to do turns and wheeling movements and stuff like that). fantasy seems very revolutionary war-ish with the lines of troops whereas LotR seems far more realistic and modern-esque which I like. I think LotR is a smaller scale model too (those LotR horses are tiny!) which is kinda neat because then the battlefield seems bigger! I think they'll wait to put out any big things like ghost ships or siege towers until they've really got the infantry lines established and a fan base supporting the expenditures incurred by producing the new big kits like 'vehicle' type model kits. who knows though, I'm no GW inside man so I could be totally wrong. it just seems like there's very few opportunities for 'vehicle size kits' in LotR since the whole movie was pretty much an infantry based thing. I could see a wagon with horses pulling it, but beyond that...um...It'd pretty much be taking creative license to create something completely new that hasn't been represented in the movies. oh and a siege tower would probably come from forgeworld first what with it being basically titan sized (in 40k terms).
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on Sept 21, 2007 5:29:50 GMT -5
Steps into the room, and coughs my announment mabus, you would do well to remeber that I consider Knight a good friend. He may play Chaos, but he is a Guardsmen at heart.
Also, I will repeat this once and once only
GAMES WORKSHOP IS NOT GOING TO GO BUST!!1
They make like £17 profit on every box of plastic cadian guardsmen they sell. It takes like 5 to make one.
The only thing they wont make much profit on is the baneblade, but thats thier choice, They will not go bust.
Ohkay.
This conversation is purely sceptical and based on rumours and theroies that are not true.
places my hand by my bolt pistol at my side Does anyone want to argue this point with me?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2007 6:06:16 GMT -5
OMG>> GW is closing forever... AHHHH... Just kidding.. I have seen this company take highs and lows over the last 15 yrs.. it is not going anywhere.. main reason.. if it did then Privateer Press would just step into the void they would be creating.. and GW has too large an ego to allow that to happen.. LOTR is also something that has come and gone within my area of the world even without any actual store even being over here either.. I just never got into it cause I was more afraid of how deep that hole would be if I ever did try to collect them.. I would probably try to recreate a scene that involves a few hundred/thousand models just cause.. the wife would kill me Anyways.. GW is safe.. relax.. take a chill pill.. and get back to painting the models that you all have and are probably sitting in boxes as it is.. Cheers Gris
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Post by Colonel Grammissar Azalar on Sept 21, 2007 7:54:48 GMT -5
Laugh Out Loud Gris.
I cant belive that people acctully thing Games Workshop is going to go bust, it wont, it probally never will.
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Post by Mabus on Sept 21, 2007 13:16:21 GMT -5
(in regards to Knights post earlier) English isn't my first language either. I wish you had kept your original post the same so that others could see what you wrote.........
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Post by Commissar on Sept 21, 2007 16:16:40 GMT -5
Okays, okays... So we have come to the conclusion that it never will close...and if it does...Grisnik, you will owe me a coke!
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Sept 21, 2007 16:31:07 GMT -5
Mabus you meant the wrong then/than between all the flames? I always do then and than wrong. So if you want to continue that one I wish you all the best and much fun. But I'm not really in the mood to start any other discussions just because of something all my English teachers told me long ago and I doubt that you can teach me that.
Oh and btw what is your first language? At least your living in an English speaking country right now which gives you some minor advantage over me. You hear English every day while I rarely have a chance to speak it because everyone over here speaks German...
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Post by Commissar on Sept 21, 2007 18:31:57 GMT -5
LoL. Deutschland...erm, whatever...am I right? My friend is gonna teach me german...
So...I guess all of our fears are abolished, yes? Everything is back to normals? Right right right? Can we send this thread to hell? Before it starts some big flaming nonsense shenanigans?
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Sept 22, 2007 1:15:11 GMT -5
I agree commissar. I don't want to restart the flaming and I edited all the major flames out of my post. So could we please close/delete/whatever this thread?
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Post by Mabus on Sept 22, 2007 3:11:52 GMT -5
Okay Knight, quits?
Let's get back to what we usually do on this forum. Talk about little soldiers! Woo-hoo! ;D
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Post by Sappmer on Sept 22, 2007 10:51:42 GMT -5
ydych chi'n sairad Cymreag?
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Post by Commissar on Sept 22, 2007 11:23:19 GMT -5
Yay...Everything is back to normals.
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