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Post by aeonian on Jan 15, 2009 20:55:49 GMT -5
IG Codex $25 IG Primaris Psyker $15 IG Ratling Snipers $20 IG Sentinel $25 IG Cadian Command Squad $25 IG Catachan Command Squad $25 IG Valkyrie $50 IG Cadian Shock Troops $22 IG Catachan Jungle Fighters $22 Here...just to annoy you, I'm posting it again!
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Jan 15, 2009 21:20:28 GMT -5
I love it.
I'd really like to know what a Primaris Psyker is going to look/be like.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2009 21:44:06 GMT -5
Let's change the math around You've got the makings of a government statistician in you.
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Post by Count Elakor on Jan 16, 2009 2:42:04 GMT -5
you know, all this about the prices if completely irelevant, isnt this about when the models are going to apear, and what they are going to look like?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2009 7:31:26 GMT -5
you know, all this about the prices if completely irelevant, isnt this about when the models are going to apear, and what they are going to look like? ummmm..... like catachans and cadians would be my guess. Doesn't matter if they're the same old in a new wrapper or brand new, they're the same two regiments we have already. No amount of remodeling will change that. And it appears we now have to take a heavy weapon so we can't go cheap and bare bones on a platoon like before which is a bit bothersome. Then again it could mean that we're only getting special weapons in the box set and heavy weapons are still separate (completely throwing the price off). For me in Japan, the cost is even higher. At current levels buying a box of Cadians runs about $43. If it gets much higher, then the IG just starts to look like a huge sink hole that I'm not up to dealing with. That or just go DKoK which the price will almost near.
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Post by aeonian on Jan 16, 2009 8:47:28 GMT -5
Yeah, and with DKoK, you get better, cooler looking miniatures...damn, I'm on the verge of considering playing space marines (I've always wanted a White Scars army) ...
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Post by Count Elakor on Jan 16, 2009 10:37:32 GMT -5
*Shots Aeonian hor trechery* now, with this heavy prise rise, the IG with needs more than twice the numbers of almost everyone else is gona become the most expensive to get a playable army with.
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Graenis on Jan 16, 2009 10:45:10 GMT -5
on the plus it does mean we'll get less little kids joining our ranks as it'll be too expensive for a quick set up compared to others.
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Jan 16, 2009 11:03:13 GMT -5
so actually it does not change much, it was already the most expensive army to collect points per price.
our metal command squad costs the same as 20 shock troopers.
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Post by aeonian on Jan 16, 2009 11:20:27 GMT -5
our metal command squad costs the same as 20 shock troopers. I just realized that...
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Jan 16, 2009 14:04:22 GMT -5
And it appears we now have to take a heavy weapon so we can't go cheap and bare bones on a platoon like before which is a bit bothersome. Then again it could mean that we're only getting special weapons in the box set and heavy weapons are still separate (completely throwing the price off). cadian guardsman snap together 5 pack 22+8=30 (in the states.) so, we are loosing 5 guardsmen for a heavy weapon.(plus five bucks in your wallet!) oh and 5 in 15 guys are going to be Mr Gimpy Snapfit, thems the guys that can die first I guess. hmmm..... there went the savings. 30x4+25=145 command squad plus 48 troops and 4 heavy weapon teams, not too bad. and we get two platoons, one with 2 squads and another with 3, plus a HQ squad with enough weapons to have the larger platoon set up as a gunline and the other set up with special weapons for mobility and objective grabbing. and I just know that new plastic catachan command squad will make for some excellent conversion fodder, I'm thinking veterans! lets try and look on the bright side people, the new codex is coming! we're getting more plastics!!
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Post by jaxafett on Jan 17, 2009 19:37:48 GMT -5
yeah, just watch new orkz/smurfs minis-if new IG will be on this level of sculpting, i'll be in heaven, no matter how much will they cost.
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Post by norge187 on Jan 17, 2009 20:09:09 GMT -5
the codex is the most important thing i'm waiting on. It's been so over due that i'm salivating at getting my hand on it.
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Post by inquisitor0sylver on Jan 20, 2009 12:25:10 GMT -5
"The Leman Russ can be bought as a squadron so you can get 3 for a single FOC. They can not be attached to platoons however."- ssgtdude 3 for a single FOC? care to explain? Ok, supposedly the way it will work is that you can purchase a Tank Platoon (Tanks don't come in squadrons, they come in platoons in real life.) with 1-3 leman russ's for a single Heavy slot. This will normally be an 0-1 option but if you take the officer designed for tanks (Tank officer, Armor Officer, whatever they want to call him.) it will increase to 0-2, possibly even 0-3 if you take 2 of them. Not sure if Artillery tanks will be the same (ie: 1-3 Basilisks.) but I doubt it. Oh, and they do not have to fight together on their own and they can join infantry platoons.
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Post by soundwarp on Jan 20, 2009 22:14:10 GMT -5
Aparently only though yeah?
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Post by Basaliskian on Jan 21, 2009 13:17:49 GMT -5
Hopfully no 0-1, ahh, so much ordanance, enough to make you brake into song......................
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Post by leinadyor on Jan 21, 2009 14:58:36 GMT -5
They need to have the 0-1 rule with exceptions like an armored officer. If they don't how many armies will you see that don't have 6 - 9 russes with 2 minimum sized platoons for troops. You don't need a lot of troops if you can kill everything with pie plates, and I can see a lot of people refusing to play against that because of how one sided the game would be. It is the same reason that Armored Companies are opponents permission, it gives them time to prepare to be crushed under armored treads.
As much as I'd like to see it, I just can't see it happening.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 15:29:07 GMT -5
Even with 0-1 LRBT Squadrons, look what we can field:
3 LRBTs in the squadron (1 Heavy Slot) 2 Basilisks (The remaining 2 Heavy Slots) 3 HHs (All 3 Fast Attack Slots)
I think that oughta be enough.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 17:48:06 GMT -5
I thought the IG motto was: 'why use two of something when you can use a dozen.'
I'm sorry noblewolves but I can only see 8 there. (Chimeras cant count, they are APCs not battle tanks)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2009 20:01:02 GMT -5
That's the Apocalypse IG motto.
The 40K Guard Motto is "Cheese, Cheese, Imbalanced, around the corner, SMurfs are made."
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Post by RedsandRoyals on Jan 21, 2009 20:41:43 GMT -5
I thought it was
"Oh God, please don't punch me in the face!"
Reds
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Jan 22, 2009 0:31:53 GMT -5
Mine was always "And that's why you should never mock hardened veterans" (generally after just exploding a tank or killing a good number of fermentators.)
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Post by Basaliskian on Jan 22, 2009 5:34:30 GMT -5
The inability to take on armoured companies is complete crap, I mean, what are devastators, havocs, and heavy weapons plattoons for then? There for providing fire support, and if you don't give them AT guns, whats the point? It's about time GW acknowledged that armoured companies should be a legal list, and made into a codex, or just re-right the uimperial guard fluff, and say that tanks are only used in limited numbers and infantry are 99.99% of the time. Anyway, rant over.
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Post by Count Elakor on Jan 22, 2009 12:38:54 GMT -5
you rigth*lays sige to GW until they legalice the AC army im using against them*
now, if they are going to give us a 0-1 limit on tank squads, people are probably going to get a full squad of LRBTs and use the rest on somthing else, as oposed to using all of them on LRBTs, so they give us 2 free heavy suport FOC slots and that seems fine by me.
if they go with the commander idea and alow a max of 0-2 LR squads, thats gona give us 3 bonus FOC slots to fill with tanks, then the remaining 1 can be used on somthing else.
but the best would be if a armoured commander made al HQ choises tanks with special rules and swaped the plase of troops and heavy suport, with tanks in troops and inf in heavy suport(it migth seem starnge but just swap the name to infu suport, not heavy S)
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Jan 22, 2009 12:59:50 GMT -5
No gents, AC is too OP an army to be used. It surpasses all other armies in terms of sheer nastiness- even bent Sternguard uber-armies are surpassed by this monster. Even Ghazkull is.
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