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Post by norge187 on Feb 19, 2009 20:00:56 GMT -5
Well with all the new russ's and vehicles I wonder how many will be produced by GW. I know they will be combining possibly quite a few into one box. But what if they don't. Forgeworld is going to make a fortune, they just need to find a way for us across the pond to get them quicker. Everything looks good, I firmly believe we kinda got shafted with the lack of anyone getting an initiative of 4. Though the hullgun will be nice with an AP 3. Get Ready for everyone to start using Storm Troopers, though I can't blame them, i'll prolly use more of them now too. Though as far as the Initiative is concerned at least your Ratlings will have a chance to atleast defend themselves at the same time during an assualt pending.
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Post by Willem on Feb 19, 2009 20:14:19 GMT -5
i think that games workshop will make all of there new models avalabel
and does any one know watt the vendeta is
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Post by Mycroft on Feb 19, 2009 20:35:44 GMT -5
I believe the Vendetta is the gunned up version of the Valkyrie that's no longer a transport.
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Post by shugotenshi47 on Feb 19, 2009 21:01:30 GMT -5
Hmm I don't see Gaunt and if they switch out our doctrines for special character bonuses then who are the light infantry players going to run?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2009 0:46:11 GMT -5
There's a tallarn special character, my guess would be him.
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Post by RedsandRoyals on Feb 20, 2009 0:50:50 GMT -5
I'm a little surprised they dropped Gaunt, considering how big of a character he is in IG fluff. That Arty Sgt. sound promising, though. I'm also pretty psyched about the Hellhound & Devildog combinations. Seems like I'll be adding even more tanks to my army... Mycroft: Are you sure you aren't thinking of the Vulture Gunship? Reds
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Post by The Refined Gentleman (M.I.A) on Feb 20, 2009 1:35:42 GMT -5
WOOT!!!! THEY REMOVED GUANT!!!! THEY BETTER DAMN WELL KEEP STEALTHER OPTIONS OTHERWISE THERE'S BLOOD TO PAY!!!
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Post by WestRider on Feb 20, 2009 1:49:56 GMT -5
Wow, I don't think I've ever had one of my posts get this many responses on any board My previous plans had been for this year to be the year I got back into playing Power Armour, particularly my Dark Angels, but nope. It's going to be an IG year! RedsandRoyals: They renamed the Gunship variant in the codex the Vendetta because it looks substantially different from the Vulture, which will still be available from Forge World. It's possible that the Rules will be somewhat different as well, but they fill the same Role.
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Graenis on Feb 20, 2009 5:59:28 GMT -5
hmm, I'm starting to think it may be possible for all airborne armies now. if we have a gunship, as well as a transport...
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Post by chwinn on Feb 20, 2009 9:32:55 GMT -5
He he he Here in quebec city my mother tongue is french...But then again, names looks alike and stats are stats... But today, I'm placing my preorder for 2 Valkyries and the english codex (I started playing with the english rules so it's easier to keep shooting the inferno cannon than ''tirer avec le cannon inferno''(sounds easy but other weapons have stange translations)) ..Yes I'm placing my preorders at my local GW store...
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Post by aeonian on Feb 20, 2009 13:38:22 GMT -5
Relating to the point of Storm Troopers being Fast Attack, perhaps the option of taking a Valkryie (as mentioned above) makes them Fast Attack, and then you can take more in the Elite section? That would be cool. Still no mention of how the customization will work, though
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Post by Helmian (M.I.A) on Feb 20, 2009 13:58:11 GMT -5
Colonel Straken 5 4 6 4 3 3 3 9 3+ 60 HOLY CRAP!! a 3+ save*faints* Commissar 4 4 3 3 1 3 2 9 5+ 32 *wakes up* WTF!? ld 9!? for a commissar??
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Post by dragoon6 on Feb 20, 2009 14:19:56 GMT -5
it's a small price to pay. The commisar LORD is ld 10 though.
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Post by John_Galt (M.I.A) on Feb 20, 2009 15:15:31 GMT -5
Think of it as the junior commissars being a little more trigger happy. Either way, that's a small price to pay for all the new goodies
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2009 18:29:09 GMT -5
I want Gaunt back...
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Post by Helmian (M.I.A) on Feb 20, 2009 18:37:22 GMT -5
so muuch lovely sick awesome death bringing ordenance weaopons with extremely long range
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Post by Willem on Feb 20, 2009 21:08:53 GMT -5
il have to find a new use for my tanith
they might make good vetrans asuming that they are any good in the new codex
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Post by dragoon6 on Feb 20, 2009 22:50:33 GMT -5
I think they didn't include gaunt because he's Colonel COmmisar. THis translates prettyy well into commisar lord. I bet upgrades will be available to approximate Tanith style fighting.
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Post by The Refined Gentleman (M.I.A) on Feb 21, 2009 1:39:51 GMT -5
There better be... >:-(
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Post by Willem on Feb 21, 2009 20:29:50 GMT -5
im also anoyd that they removed schafer and kage
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2009 23:00:24 GMT -5
that melta cannon seam cool about time, we got a long range melta wepon, with blast temp, horde list are in for hurting, super nids just got a wake up call. Also with that plamsa cannon with heavy 3, all those blast temp flying around there going to be a lot of wth. My nurgle list is start to get a little worry about new ig
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Post by aeonian on Feb 27, 2009 7:31:03 GMT -5
Here's what bothers me, though: at this point, I am getting a sickening feeling down the base of my neck. I am very, very worried that whoever is writing the new 'dex has uber goofed, and written our 'dex like the marine 'dex where to get special abilities you have to buy a special character. I don't want my stealth army to be tallarn or fighting anything like the tallarn, I want my stealth army to be my stealth army, and besides - there are over a million regiments in the Imperial Guard. it makes no sense that they would limit a certain type of regiment to a certain character.
Another example: what if I want to play a Schola Progenium force? You guys, if you have read the fluff, know about the Schola Progenium. That's the place where all the storm troopers (not grenadiers or kasrkins) and Commissars and sisters of battle are drawn from. But, what if taking a Commissar Lord as your H.Q only allows you to gain access to lots of conscripts and cannon fodder type units? I'm really afraid that the fluff won't match up, or the army won't match up in the ways that people like them.
That sounds sort of nit-picky, but in all seriousness, it's not. Look at our 'dex now - it's got doctrines, the ability to customize your army from the ground up. My stealth army could look completely different from Puffy's stealth army, for example:
The Aeonian ##th Regiment: - light infantry - heavy weapon platoons - sharpshooters - close order drill - veterans
Monian ##th Regiment: - light infantry - cameleoline - ratlings - special weapon squads - hardened fighters
Both are infiltration armies that rely on cover and ambush tactics rather than vehicles and such, though it is clear that my army is very shooting oriented, with lots of heavy weapon teams with sharpshooters and infiltration, while Puffy's army seems to be an ambush style army that jumps out and engages foes in hand-to-hand combat!
That's what I'm saying. If my fears are proven true, then the codex will say: if you take Tallarn commander wotshisface, you get +1 to cover saves, but then your troops are terrible at so and so method of fighting.
*end rant*
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Post by sammy1979 on Feb 27, 2009 9:06:40 GMT -5
i doubt that though. over the past two years, points decrease to stat increase has happened to boost sales, of minitures. its unlikly that there will be anything to make guard crappy at anything. the only thing that will probably be certain is that you will not be able to field, a small elite army. they will probably be big and bold and will probably refelect the sledge hammer aproach that fits the IG fluff. if anything there will be a massive kickback from all the other players about how hard IG are going to get, because lets be honest IG would be a massive and sales will go through the roof, if there made very hard. well at least untill the next large sale codex is launched, the quantity of IG needed for a good army is large so the more people that play guard the more money they make.
so in short we dont have to worry the new codex. it will relaunch IG as the pre dominate force in th 40k world.
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Post by WestRider on Feb 27, 2009 13:56:34 GMT -5
But Aeon's point is that it's entirely possible for them to make a Guard Dex that's powerful and competitive, but still lacking in customization. The latest re-write of the Chaos Dex is a perfect example of this. The previous one had its problems, but it was fun. The current version is strong and competitive, but boring. This is what we're worried about.
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Post by Willem on Feb 27, 2009 17:09:24 GMT -5
do you think we will get a free flamer and hevy bolter with our squads like SMurfs do
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