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Post by scythexv8 on Apr 12, 2009 7:49:51 GMT -5
Fellow Officers, I was wondering what your opinions might be for the new Elite option, the psyker battle squad. To me it sounds a slightly peculiar choice fluff-wise but it may have some interesting applications battlefield-side. Their morale reducing power could benefit any gun line or spearhead(probably the latter as the opposition would be closer to their table edge) and their offensive power could hurt a lot. They're probably a good investment if covered by lots of infantry(which we possess in abundance) or in a Chimera IFV(I think you're allowed to use a fire port for psychic powers since they're like shooting a weapon). What do you think about them? Alternate uses? Numbers in the unit? The Tactica Imperium awaits your vital input.
By the way, I'm putting this in the Rumors section since the codex isn't out yet. Please relocate appropriately if you think this shouldn't be here.
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Post by aeonian on Apr 12, 2009 10:19:43 GMT -5
I think it's rediculous, and it will get killed off way too easily. They don't have a good enough save and even in cover are still only T3 with a 4+ cover save. If you roll perils of the warp you lose D3 psykers!!! I'm probably never gonna use them. If I get board and run out of stuff to buy I might make a team and try it out, but I'll never use them in a seirous game.
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Post by commissargaunt on Apr 12, 2009 10:44:21 GMT -5
CMON! a psyker squad Aeon i don't know where your head has gone! you get the potential of a
str 10 ap 1 large blast and put em in a chimera and they cant be shot whilst firing their blast out!!!
also yeah you lose D3 psykers with POTW but how many times have you rolled a POTW, its on a roll of a 12 thats a 1 in 36 chance so you'll lose your D3 once every six games. also the potential they give with a culexus assassin is quite awesome with 3 squads of em that could be 32 str 5 ap 1 shots at BS 5 plus the 3 str 10 large blasts. In my books thats nasty!
are you sure their 5+ save isn't invulnerable, being psykers and all.
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Post by dragoon6 on Apr 12, 2009 10:57:17 GMT -5
I think the value will be realized when applied in multiple squads with a list that focuses on provking pin tests. they'll be pretty uselss against certain things though,(like orcs, for example.) I think it'll be pretty darn mean in freindly games though. Thyey tend not to have a lot of fearless in them, and the majority of SM will actuall have some trouble with this.
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Post by commissargaunt on Apr 12, 2009 11:01:12 GMT -5
you're forgetting the librarian's psychic hood, THE SINGLE MOST ANNOYING PIECE OF EQUIPMENT EVER. period.
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Post by dragoon6 on Apr 12, 2009 11:22:47 GMT -5
He can only do that once per phase. you should have three squads if you are doing this, AND, I don't know about your area, but Librarian are few and far between around here......
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Post by aeonian on Apr 12, 2009 11:26:57 GMT -5
No one I know runs a Librarian in their army. Yeah, I guess this could work...it just doesn't seem very "fluffy" if you know what I mean!  |
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Post by commissargaunt on Apr 12, 2009 11:27:31 GMT -5
really, i have a mate that almost always plays one, if not two!!!
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Post by Ymmot (M.I.A) on Apr 12, 2009 11:45:15 GMT -5
The librarian is pretty awesome, beats the chaplin hands down as much as I hate to admit it... 100 points for a IC with a force weapon and two free psychic powers of his choice,
I almost always have to deal with one when I'm fighting SMurfs.
as for a psyker battle squad...
I think I'll skip it and stuff my elites full of stormies.
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Post by commissargaunt on Apr 12, 2009 11:53:53 GMT -5
yeah but i can still see some pretty mean Psi-guard lists emerging 2 Primaris psykers plus 3 full psyker squads and some allied GKs with psyker Inquisitors. PSYK out! plus the one Culexus assassin with like an assault 40 BS 5 animus speculum  tee hee Eldar: wow and i though we had psykers galore. *rapidly fried by insane animus speculum fire* |
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Post by aeonian on Apr 12, 2009 13:42:23 GMT -5
That's an insane tactic! I didn't think of that! Just put 'em in a chimera to keep them alive, wam! Dead everything within 12" of that assassin! We should start a pinned up Cheese Tactics thread...
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Post by commissargaunt on Apr 12, 2009 14:03:27 GMT -5
Indeed!
This is basically just a variation of the 5 seer counsels and a Culexus apocalypse tactic.
I tell you it shreds everything within 12" especially psykers (as the Culexus can target them even if they're in a squad!!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2009 15:01:52 GMT -5
Oh and dont forget, take the Primus Psyker to run around too!
Ren
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Post by commissargaunt on Apr 12, 2009 15:06:54 GMT -5
Indeed the primaris psykers look totally EEEEEVIL with their assault 2D6 str 6 shots of doom.
DOOMED I SAY DOOOOOMED!
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Post by Willem on Apr 12, 2009 15:34:28 GMT -5
i fight mostley nids and when they even knead moral there lerdership is so badthat they will run away any ways and they never run off the bord always to the nearist synaps creatcher
and my brother will make them get POTW evrey turn with his shado in the warp thing
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Post by commissargaunt on Apr 12, 2009 18:18:34 GMT -5
Isn't that only if i'm within like 12" of a synapse creature? and if its a psychic power then BAYUM psychic hood on the Primaris Psyker*tee hee*
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Post by WestRider on Apr 12, 2009 19:01:44 GMT -5
The Template maxes out at S9, the tenth dude is the Overseer, not another Sanctioned Psyker.
One thing that bugs me is that it looks like you have to wait to use their Ld Reducing Power until after you've issued Orders, which means you can't use it in combination with Fire on My Target to pin Squads in good Cover. Maybe not that big of an issue, now that I think about it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2009 20:42:45 GMT -5
i always dislike like pyskers untill now. the fact they stack so well with a that assassin, is to going to be a realy nasty suprise. Or use there ld bomb with rats and or a vin assassin and that is some good pin power. But they dont fit the fluff of my list either but i will have try them out for a few games.
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Post by scythexv8 on Apr 13, 2009 3:18:03 GMT -5
Ok, the Cullexus/psyker combo sounds great. It's becoming apparent that the psyker options for the Guard can become very useful. And yes, the Primaris Psyker sounds evil!
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Post by commissargaunt on Apr 13, 2009 6:35:54 GMT -5
indeed 12 str 6 shots OUCH *PAIN*
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Post by aeonian on Apr 13, 2009 17:04:19 GMT -5
That's if you roll well...remember, it could be only two shots |
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Post by commissargaunt on Apr 13, 2009 17:05:54 GMT -5
the average roll on 2d6 is about 7 so still a damned fine weapon especially at str 6 ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2009 19:30:20 GMT -5
Maybe in an Apocalypse game if I have some extra cash, the models don't really appeal to me
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Post by WestRider on Apr 14, 2009 1:10:26 GMT -5
I use Delaque Gangers from Necromunda as Sanctioned Psykers. With the Trenchcoats and the fact that they've all got their eyes covered, it looks pretty good.
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Post by commissargaunt on Apr 14, 2009 3:43:41 GMT -5
sounds cool, the primaris psyker model is cool, well i like it ;D
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tee hee 
