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Post by Willem on Apr 21, 2009 18:40:53 GMT -5
black thunderhauk down
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Post by nicholasakira on Apr 21, 2009 20:24:31 GMT -5
Come on, it looked like the clouds were void shields or something. They really were.
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Post by Julian Sharps on Apr 21, 2009 20:34:52 GMT -5
I heard that WETA was interested in doing the CGI for a live-action Evangelion movie (that has not happened yet), so it is possible they'd be called in to do a CGI 40K movie (assuming one was even done).
I'm still not going to hold my breath for a good movie adaptation until I see it personally.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2009 3:25:52 GMT -5
I hate to say it, but I think a 40k Film would not really work. Making something that appeals to a broad audience would be hard, and satisfying the fans boys even harder, and both for the same reason: The crippling amount of background. There is so much background that is essential to how the 40k-verse has developed that it couldn't be left out, yet how does thousands of years worth of strife get represented in a movie that's supposed to be about characters, drama and action? And telling the tale of the Heresy would not be satisfactory, since the books are doing that for the fanboys anyway. I don't know what a movie could actually be about that would create an accesible, viable, engrossing story that isn't held back with a veritable anchor of necessary exposition for new comers.
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Post by nicholasakira on Apr 22, 2009 7:42:48 GMT -5
I agree with tombworld.
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Post by John_Galt (M.I.A) on Apr 22, 2009 10:21:41 GMT -5
The cain novels would probably make a decent movie, but I'd much prefer to see Gaunt's Ghosts or Eisenhorn/Ravenor if it could actually be done right. (<3 Abnett)
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Graenis on Apr 22, 2009 10:29:50 GMT -5
well, a movie adaptation of their origional works would be fine though tombworld. I mean, the Lord of the Rings didn't need a movie, but it got one
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Apr 22, 2009 11:40:45 GMT -5
Tombworld, for a one-shot war movie about a fictional universe, you don't need a lot of background. Start off w/ a montage of Imperial settings and the enemy races and such while having vo of Morgan Freeman narrating the intro page of all the BL books: "It is the 41st millennium. Yadda, yadda." Fade to back, then open with a shot of guardsmen taking cover from a nearby blast from a defiler, or what-have-you, and you're good. A movie would serve to pique to interest of people like my friends, who don't want to associate with anything 'not cool enough to be made into a movie.' Satisfying the 'fanboys' is, after all, a secondary concern in other media forms; the tabletop games are for what they give to us.
And no, LotR defiantly didn't need a movie. Certainly not one that looks like they spent so much money/time/effort on it, and still didn't meet expectations...
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Post by halosnachtariff on Apr 22, 2009 12:08:37 GMT -5
A 40K movie pretty much has no choice but to be about IG, otherwise you lose the human factor and just end up with fruitless fight scenes. (Not that that wouldn't be fun, it just wouldn't make good film.)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2009 14:56:12 GMT -5
Well, you've also got the Inquisition. They're still human enough to be interesting, in a Machiavellian way.
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Post by halosnachtariff on Apr 23, 2009 12:43:25 GMT -5
Oh yeah, that's true, an inqusitor could make for a good anti-hero.
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Post by Sappmer on Apr 23, 2009 13:15:57 GMT -5
A movie of Eisenhorn would be cool. Or Gaunts Ghosts, as John_Galt said earlier. Methinks a 40k movie should only feature Space Marines for only a few shots if they are really needed, because they are supposed to be rare and only having one or two appear for a few minutes in a movie would emphise that. But they would have to be doing something cool.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2009 14:29:59 GMT -5
If a 40k film was made, it would have to be LOTR type in scale. It would have to be bigger in fact, to do the universe justice it would need to redefine EPIC.
Imperium Vs Chaos.... lots of imperial guard, lots of traitor guard, lots of daemonic possession and some ordo malleus thrown in for good measure. That film would make me wet.
I wanna see space battles, boarding and lots of violence. I want to see mass tank formations, artillery, I want to see stormtroopers being caught behind enemy lines. I want to see a grey knight commander chopping up possessed cultists sprouting random limbs and spitting bile at him. I want to see an apocalyptic showdown in a hive city with grey knights and guard trying to take down a daemon prince and its warped retinue.
I want to see the ordo malleus use infiltrating scouts that are damn good at ninjutsu, not fake movie-fu. I want to see this now. please. someone...
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Post by Ogryn Crazy! on Apr 23, 2009 15:53:55 GMT -5
A film made of Jaq Draco's Trilogy! mucho awesomeness!!!!!!
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Post by Lord Solar Macharius on Apr 23, 2009 16:28:29 GMT -5
That film would make me wet.Umm... ...ok. But the amount of action seems right, with lots of gore. Nobody gets shot, and blood slowly pools out, lets see some arterial spray!
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Graenis on Apr 23, 2009 17:16:17 GMT -5
Well, that seems like a decent ammoutn of action, but as I said, most likely, if a film is done of 40K it will most likely be a film adaptation for a novel. Like I am working on. Only marines I believe are two near the begining.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2009 5:34:59 GMT -5
I agree with: It follows IG. Any other race, inc Space Marines would mean the characters and story cannot get going until a lot of stuff has been explained to the audience. Plus I.G. is a great dramatic choice because the guardsman is like the audience; he has no powers, no super-human skills, no reality bending technology, he's just adrift in this barely comprehensible universe in a situation almost beyond Human understanding. He has the same perspective as a new comer to the 40k universe, and it isn't dramatically necessary to explain everything, since the characters are just small cogs in a gargantuan machine.
The Inquisition is also a good idea, since it gives us a character who's very job is to explore the 40k-verse. That's a good idea.
I agree with: Gore. It's a brutal unierse, and it should be represented frankly. Also, swearing. It's a natural thing people do and as long as it isn't gratuitous, it can make a situation more believable and mature. I'm always concious of when a character says 'Damn' when they should be saying...well, use you imagination. 'Legion' had a bit of foul-mouthery, and it felt right for the characters to curse and swear. In fact, the only thing that felt wrong was that they chickened out and used 'Fug' or some other euphamism at times.
But I disagree with Siaz. In fact, that's what I think the may get wrong about it! How would you fit EVERYTHING into a film? A film should be correctly paced, exciting and have character development. An exposition filled trudge through the 40k verse with every detail shoe-horned in wether it's part of the story or not would not work. I also disagree with anything being explained in voice-over. A brief intro, like LotR, or stylish opening/coda like War of the Worlds is ok. Having a massive ream of exposition ('info-dumping') is a classic story-telling no-no. The story, background and all that good stuff should be explored through the characters. Check out a dreadful film called 'Ultraviolet' for the antithesis of that. It starts with a horrible, tedious, voice-over info-dump written by someone to incompetent to figure out how to relay the (surprisingly dull) backstory of the film's universe to the audience properly. It's lazy, boring to sit through, and should be held as an example of how not to present a story. Seriously, check it out, and you'll agree that voice-over info-dumping should never, ever be used in a film.
I dunno. A 40k film could possibly be done with the same mentality as the new Star Trek movie: We're going to start afresh and choose entertainment and accesibilty over all else, and not ever allow ourselves to be dragged down with slavish devotion to fan-boy pleasing minutae.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2009 6:17:56 GMT -5
Why are we even discussing this? its not going to happen any time soon. It would take about 4 years to make a really good 40k film!
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Apr 24, 2009 9:43:14 GMT -5
Argh. Ultraviolet is a poor re-make of Equilibrium, but with vampires. And that kid who sees dead people. I always look over the characters' shoulders for Bruce Willis when I see that kid.
I'm not talking about a 5 minute voice exposition, here; just a minute or two at the extreme most. The intro to LotR was the kind of thing I had in mind.
One of the ideas I've had for an IG movie would be the first person account of a guardsman who managed to survive a battle against chaos, and the story is told as he relates it to the Inquisitor who's interviewing him to see if he's been tainted.
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Post by control on Apr 24, 2009 16:31:06 GMT -5
I reacon a narrator would be a must, otherwise people new to the 40k world would have no idea about what's happening.
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Graenis on Apr 24, 2009 17:22:35 GMT -5
thats what the brief intro is for. You ever read a black library book? if not, allow me to enlighten you. at the begining of each 40k novel by black library is a bit of info. Allow me to quote it here.
It is te 41st millennium. For more than a hundred centuries the Emperor has say immobile on the Golden Throne of Earth. He is the master of mankind by the will of the gods, and master of a mllion worls by the might of his inechaustable armies. He is a rotting carcass writihing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of Technology. He is the Carrion Lord of the Imperium for whom a thousand souls are sacrificed every day, so that he may never truly die.
Yet even in his deathless state, the Emperor continues his eternal vigilance. Mighty battlefleets cross the daemon-infested miasma of the warp, the only real route between distant stars, their way lit by the Astronomican, the psychic manifestation of the Emperor's will. Vast armies give battle in his name on uncounted worlds. Greatest amongst his soldiers are the Adeptus Astartes, the Space Marines, bio-engineered super warriors. Their comrades in arms are legion: the Imperial Guard and planetary defence foreces, the ever-vigilant Inquisition and the tech-priests of the Adeptus Mechanicus to name only a few. But for all their multitudes the are arely enough ro hold off the ever-present threat from aliens, heretics, mutants - and worse.
To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruellest and most bloody regime imaginable. These are th tales of those times. Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned. Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.
I would say that gives a far impression of the Imperium. and as the film would focuss ont he imperium, the rest can be told through tales told by characters and in dialogue.
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Post by Willem on Apr 24, 2009 17:24:59 GMT -5
i riley want to sea a macrage movie.................starship troopers any body
the book starship troopers is ware the idea for nids came from probubley valks too
black reach is also another posabilety
but the best would defanetley be a movie about the horis heracey
and has any one read that thing about the diary of a CSM its prety funy
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2009 18:44:18 GMT -5
Well either way for any story i think that it would in most cases look great in full CGI Animation (sort of like the final fantasy move (advent children not sprits within) or like in the opening cut seen from Dawn of war ) considering the Epic scale of some of the Battles would be.
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Graenis on Apr 24, 2009 19:04:04 GMT -5
heh. Epic scale is nothing. have you not seen the lord of the rings? only the close up bits are actors, rest is compeletly cgi. (the characters etc) and it looks stunning doesnt it?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2009 23:51:26 GMT -5
It does, because that's CGI done right. But, knowing our luck, we'd get George Lucas CGI- too much, too often, too bad!
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