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Post by aeonian on Apr 23, 2009 12:39:35 GMT -5
The Tactica Imperium...I love it!  |
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Graenis on Apr 23, 2009 16:52:38 GMT -5
nope, not unless they stole from ancient texts  thats a quote from Sun Tzu's The Art of War And tis not meant to be taken literally as that, think about it more froma militaristic point of view. if you are weak, spread your men out so it looks like theirs more. if you are strong, hide part of your army. It doesn't translate too well into table top, as your oponent knows exactly where your army is. But bear in mind, this was a time when you couldn't see the entire battlefield at once. EDIT- Planetstrike FOC's Attackers: Compulsory: 1 HQ Optional: 2 HQ 6 Elite 6 Troop 8 Fast Attack 3 Heavy Support. Defenders: Compulsory 1 HQ 2 Troops Optional 3 Elite 6 Troop 3 Fast Attack 6 Heavy Support Speculations on what the little headings mean in the video. A new way to fight: game types and rules? the muster forces one is obviously the FOC charts. Prepare your defences: out of points cost, able to buy barricades? new buildings, most probably new set up options? |
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Post by pupyut on Apr 23, 2009 17:26:48 GMT -5
HOW LONG WOULD WE HAVE TO WAIT TO KNOW IF WE GET VALHALLANS?!?!?!?!?!
I really want to know because as of yet I have only collected little bits of armies and I was about to go all out and buy imperial guard and convert them all into a winter scheme, but if new models come out I would rather buy them.
I wonder if they are coming out? I wonder if they are coming out? I wonder if they are coming out? I wonder if they are coming out? I wonder if they are coming out? I wonder if they are coming out? I wonder if they are coming out?
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Graenis on Apr 23, 2009 17:32:18 GMT -5
ya dude? please don't. Kinda annoys me. If they are comming out, then GW will inform us before summer, more than likely a month before at latest. As they have confirmed it two months in advance. so soon. But personally I doubt it.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Apr 23, 2009 17:38:53 GMT -5
Looking at the foc slots, it seems that it could be very unfair to the defender w/o any special considerations. Although if only compulsory choices are made it's a suicide mission for the attacker  |
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Graenis on Apr 23, 2009 17:45:43 GMT -5
wait, 8 troops is unfair? look at the new dex again  a basic platoon (5 squads) is 55 men, you can have 8 of the,. thats 440 men.... just from the troops. each one of them gaining the FRF, SR... order.... and with the ability to merge into a super unit. (147 shots) (can more than one platoon merge? or is it restricted to one platoon?) so think how many shots you get from this order. 43 of the platoon get benefits from this, with 147 shots rapid fire. 8 of these squads is 1176 shots.... now do some math hammer and this is just troops |
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Post by Lord Solar Macharius on Apr 23, 2009 19:33:45 GMT -5
Yeah, i didn't mean only for Armageddon, but it seems a logical place to start. Most new supplementary rules are focused around one battle, and can be used to represent other battles. I know that they're releasing new buildings with the books release.
Seems cool, do we know what month it will be released in?
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Apr 23, 2009 20:46:26 GMT -5
It doesn't say 8 troops for defenders. And that's only a valid number and such for the Guard. Anyway, logistically, w/ 50+ guys, not all of them will be in range until the enemy is to close (unless you're into that sorta thing). |
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Post by Inquisitor Lord Graenis on Apr 24, 2009 0:22:20 GMT -5
yes it does. 2 compulsory, 6 optional.... that makes 8
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Post by Willem on Apr 25, 2009 21:01:16 GMT -5
defender
18 leamans
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Post by Julian Sharps on Apr 25, 2009 21:26:02 GMT -5
Six Deathstrikes. Despite how much it was nerfed, just do it for the psychological impact.
OR
18 Medusas. Eat it, fraggers!
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Post by Machine Gun Kelly on Apr 26, 2009 9:09:27 GMT -5
I really look forward to those buildings. I wan't some of those on my table.
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Post by GuardsmanPatch on Apr 30, 2009 1:28:27 GMT -5
I've heard that the buildings were scratch-built. You can see that the tops are the same as the barricades on the ground level. Dare say there is going to be something - and those new barricades do look rather nice...
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Post by nicholasakira on May 4, 2009 22:54:58 GMT -5
New Ironclad for planetstrike, in case you haven't seen it  |
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Post by Ogryn Crazy! on May 5, 2009 10:32:36 GMT -5
What the feck?!
Shoulder mounted missile launchers?
What the feth is that gun/drill?
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Post by Julian Sharps on May 5, 2009 10:43:26 GMT -5
Now that's what I call a Dreadnought!
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Post by Ogryn Crazy! on May 5, 2009 11:12:47 GMT -5
ah...... just checked my inbox, its called a "Seismic Hammer" . |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2009 14:32:59 GMT -5
wait, 8 troops is unfair? look at the new dex again a basic platoon (5 squads) is 55 men, you can have 8 of the,. thats 440 men.... just from the troops. each one of them gaining the FRF, SR... order.... and with the ability to merge into a super unit. (147 shots) (can more than one platoon merge? or is it restricted to one platoon?) so think how many shots you get from this order. 43 of the platoon get benefits from this, with 147 shots rapid fire. 8 of these squads is 1176 shots.... now do some math hammer and this is just troops You forgot the 50x8 conscripts, 15x8 heavy weapon teams in HW squads and 6x8 special weapon squads too ;D |
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Post by control on May 13, 2009 5:02:56 GMT -5
I reacon the Ironclad looks dry, looks just as flimsy as the normal drednought.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on May 13, 2009 10:43:49 GMT -5
It's not. It has more armor, and one more cc attack, with a very angry weapon.
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Post by control on May 13, 2009 14:40:15 GMT -5
It's not. It has more armor, and one more cc attack, with a very angry weapon. I know, I'm just saying that it doesn't look like it has better armour |
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Post by The Envoy (AWOL) on May 13, 2009 16:47:18 GMT -5
You know, I'm kinda disappointed in the look they gave the seismic hammer. I pictured a dreadnought carrying an actual hammer, sort of like the Furioso, but with a hammer.
Guess if I ever use one I'll just have to make my own...
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Post by Ogryn Crazy! on May 14, 2009 1:38:56 GMT -5
It would look better with some kind of reactive armour molded on.
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on May 14, 2009 11:38:40 GMT -5
Control, fair enough. It's true that the look of this thing isn't representative of its rules. Yeah, the hammer looks more like that arm from forgewolrd, and the interior modeled HK's are annoying if you don't want them there (though, why wouldn't you?). This dreadnought is jut the Ultramarines trying to be as cool as the Blood Angels. They fail, because Furiosos can still be venerable and even death company. Ironclad vs Furioso = Furioso win.
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Post by The Envoy (AWOL) on May 14, 2009 12:56:20 GMT -5
No one can be as cool as a Furioso, it's just not possible. They only thing that may be better is a plastic kit for the Furioso, but being all metal it becomes an effective projectile to be used against an annoying opponent.
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a basic platoon (5 squads) is 55 men, you can have 8 of the,. thats 440 men.... just from the troops. each one of them gaining the FRF, SR... order.... and with the ability to merge into a super unit. (147 shots) (can more than one platoon merge? or is it restricted to one platoon?)
