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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Feb 10, 2007 20:40:05 GMT -5
my demolisher is gonna have hull lascannons and sponson plasma cannons - a common setup. for those of you with armored experience, what vehicle wargear weapons have proven worth the investment with this weapon setup?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2007 21:22:10 GMT -5
I have mine from before they had the stubber kits, so it has a Stormbolter on it which I find works well... and the HK is always a worthy investment... takes some luck, but its good
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Feb 10, 2007 22:24:44 GMT -5
so you don't think it'd be a bad investment for the heavy stubber and HK?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2007 0:23:57 GMT -5
Well.... it depends on who youre up against... if theres lots of tank definetly take the HK, you're gunna need all the shots you can get that might take out armor, even if it is only one shot. As far as the stubber goes... its a nice little investment, 3 shots, good range, decent Str and ok AP... If it were me, I would always take the pintle-mounts, and take the HK when its going to be most effective, armor situations. Thats just my opinion.. I outfitted all my new chimeras with heaystubbers, but all my other tanks are old and either have nothing or stormbolters because thats all there was haha
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Feb 11, 2007 1:26:04 GMT -5
hmm ok. that makes for an expensive tank though. goes against the thought of fitting 3 russes onto the field. I'm still debating the options, so I'll probably wait till a few more people weigh in to decide whether to model the bits on or not.
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Post by knight (M.I.A) on Feb 11, 2007 19:00:49 GMT -5
If you have to face some tough enemy forces or amrour the HK is always worth the investment. I also outfit my non-Lascannon Sentinals with one... To the pintle mount, I don't like them, as they make the tank look even more clumsy then it looks already, but that is personal preference...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2007 20:54:59 GMT -5
I like the pintle because it makes it look more like a modern tank, or historic tank... most tanks have a mounted machine gun on them as a pintle mount. Most Ive seen anyways. The other thing, I do have to say if youre going up against numerous weaker opponents, dont bother with the HK
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Post by Woz on Feb 12, 2007 16:40:17 GMT -5
I always us pintle mounted Heavy Stubbers on my tanks. HK's I've never used but they'd be great on really big battlefields.
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Feb 12, 2007 22:54:50 GMT -5
my demolisher is already 190pts, spending more points on the tank makes me twitch. I'm kinda liking the HK for the extra anti-armor shot. the tank really seems proficient at anti-infantry with the main gun. even if that gun is damaged, 2 plasma cannons and a lascannon ain't bad. the HK would get used in every battle, but the heavy stubber may not.
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Post by Commissar on Feb 13, 2007 17:46:49 GMT -5
What does the demolisher cannon do? Sorry, still a little new to 40K, I love the HK, very useful, same with the heavy stubber, any enemy infantry get through and you can gun some of em' down before your infantry support can deal with them.
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Post by Woz on Feb 13, 2007 21:53:41 GMT -5
What does the demolisher cannon do? Read the codex. (sorry TB I deleted your post because posting stats infringes GW copyright - If they're posted online on a GW site the you can post them).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2007 6:47:51 GMT -5
For my demolisher.. i go with nothing... it is a tank hunter in my eyes and should be equiped as such.. I go HM Lascannon and thats it.. it is to fight tanks and if i were to take the pintle mounts I might be tempted to attack troops with it.. and it is not a troop killer in my army.. if you are going to put pintle mounted anythings it should be in hellhounds, and chimeras.. nothing else..
there's my 2 cents.. and I didnt vote cause there isnt a "Dont take anything option.. " Cheers Gris
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on Feb 14, 2007 15:32:15 GMT -5
heh sorry woz, I should have known better, I'm always railing on people in the armylist forum to take out their points costs and stuff like that geeze.
gris, what about lascannon hull, multimelta sponsons and a hk for tank hunting?
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Post by Woz on Feb 14, 2007 16:23:47 GMT -5
heh sorry woz, I should have known better, I'm always railing on people in the armylist forum to take out their points costs and stuff like that geeze.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2007 7:58:43 GMT -5
You gave me no option for neither! Damn you!
Addons are a waste of time imo. Look cool though.
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Post by genilyenovick on Feb 18, 2007 13:37:37 GMT -5
Well on point of preference I like the idea on having the heavy stubber n most of my vehicles. Three extra shots agoinst any thing is always a god idea in my book. Fallow this up with the the what do i value most question. Is is anti tank, anti infintry or a mix. My demollisher is fitted with a lascannon and nothing else but the heavy stubber(for point cost effective) really I just wanted the cannon, but if you really want to go down the rout that it seems you want to go the dem. with the las, plas and a stubber is a good bet, I never use HKM's except when I through down the armor company.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2007 16:53:54 GMT -5
Demolisher add-ons? You have a lascannon and plasma cannon/multi-melta, what more can you want?
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Post by Commissar on Feb 24, 2007 23:12:20 GMT -5
A cannon that shoots monkeys? Really, a demolisher is a tank hunter, I keep heavy stubbers though, they are great. Can we still use the storm bolters on the tanks or what?
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on May 28, 2007 10:32:45 GMT -5
yep storm bolters are still technically an option but why would you want one when a heavy stubber is superior in almost every way for the meager cost of a fractional point cost increase.
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Post by Woz on May 28, 2007 21:00:11 GMT -5
My Demol' is fitted with a hull Las Cannon, plasma cannons and a heavy stubber so it can sit still a waste my opponent at long range. The Demol' cannon is only used should anyone be foolish enough to get too close.
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Post by thefishki345 on May 29, 2007 1:53:16 GMT -5
uhh i dont have a demolisher, but here's a tactic, because no one wants to go near a demolisher cannon, maybe you should put your most expensive units behind it or capture an objective with a squad and have the demolisher backing it up, im sure that has been used before, but what the hey.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2007 8:02:47 GMT -5
why plasma cannons....arnt they xpensive...if ure lookngi fer that 3 tank in one game option, i'd go with gris on his opinion of scrapping the sponsoons adn just keep the hull lascannon and add a HK fer extra damage...mebe then can u hav a descent costing demolisher...just a thought
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Post by Woz on May 30, 2007 9:58:48 GMT -5
The Plasmas aren't that expensive if you think about it. You get two Plasma Cannons for the same points as giving two infantry squads a Heavy bolter each. They cost the same as one Autocannon in a fire support team.
These are the only Plasma cannons the IG can have and because they're on a tank they don't overheat.
I use my Demol' as a bunker with it parked on the edge of the board (no rear shots into the weak armour) surrounded by infantry and my HW squads. The PC's give it more long range firepower and with the Las Cannons and Heavy Stubber thats a lot of firepower. The Demol Cannon discourages anyone from wanting to come too close, so it also helps to protect my troops from assault.
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on May 31, 2007 4:02:01 GMT -5
yeah good point noting the 'back to the table edge.' I've gotten schooled a few times for deploying my demolisher in an advanced position in my deployment zone - just trying to get that main gun into range, but it's really not needed. with the heavy artillery (plasmas and lascannon) you can (and should) do just what woz said - park it with it's back to a table edge and fire things up with the sponsons and hull lascannon. anything that tries to close gets a demolisher cannon shell in the face. doing this negates one of the tanks achilles heels: it's weak rear armor. the only other achilles heel is that if you don't move it, it's hit really easily in melee. thanks woz
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Post by Turtleboy(AWOL) on May 31, 2007 5:41:20 GMT -5
k so looks like the solid consensus of this poll says heavy stubber only. I'm gonna model that on now then! this tank is gonna be a gunboat ***edit*** tank looks sweet, needs some spot primer but you get the feel for it I'm sure. here's a pic!
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