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Post by Willem on Jul 18, 2009 0:01:12 GMT -5
hive tyrents fexes and biovors always change with the new nid dexes so watt do you think is in store fore the new nids my brother is expexcting a build a gaunt workshop on the gaunts entry  and i think gaunts should come in 8 strong broods for 20$ of horma gaunts and termagaunts and maby plastick gargoiels |
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Post by Melissia on Jul 18, 2009 0:24:02 GMT -5
Haven't heard anything about a new Tyranid dex. Frankly, they don't need it yet, there's five armies that currently need it more than they do.
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Post by The Envoy (AWOL) on Jul 18, 2009 0:27:41 GMT -5
There are threats of it coming into play eventually, but nothing confirmed.
The only thing I know of is the rumored plastic Trygon, beyond that, Nids don't need an update. They're one of the armies that is probably the most balanced out of all the current codexes.
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Post by Ignatius on Jul 18, 2009 1:50:17 GMT -5
I have to agree. Theres really no need for a new nid codex.
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Post by GuardsmanPatch on Jul 18, 2009 2:31:59 GMT -5
Yeah I keep on hearing rumours about a Trygon, about time other races get a bit of super-heavy loving, Stompa excepted.
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Post by Romer on Jul 18, 2009 5:10:52 GMT -5
Dark Eldar badly need redoing. Long before 'Nids need redoing. They are a fantastic concept and were really fun to play with (played them a bit in 3rd edition).
But they need a complete model overhaul (raiders and warriors excluded probably), new rules to make the list more diverse and useful.
They are not going to get the fan base GW wants untill they are redone... but it seems they wont be redone before the fan base appears. *Sigh*
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Post by Macfeegle on Jul 18, 2009 6:17:50 GMT -5
DE are rumouredto be the next 'dex after SW so expect to see them early next year!  |
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Post by nicholasakira on Jul 18, 2009 10:41:48 GMT -5
Yeah I keep on hearing rumours about a Trygon, about time other races get a bit of super-heavy loving, Stompa excepted. The major trygon rumor on Warseer turned out to be false (I recognized the colour scheme on the pictured model from an old GW article on apocalypse, which obviously wasn't a plastic tygon.) So, at least for now, its just wishlisting. Plastic gargoyles for the nids is something that will probably be done one day. GW should do them for Planetstrike. But a new Nid codex? Not for a while I think. |
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Post by Willem on Jul 18, 2009 14:12:22 GMT -5
i have heard the trygon stuff
and i would agre nids dont nead a new dex
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Jul 18, 2009 17:12:49 GMT -5
Well, they need it, but nowhere like DE or SoB.
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Post by blackarmchair on Jul 18, 2009 18:00:22 GMT -5
You mean Inquisition? Aren't SoB and Grey Knights being joined now?
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Post by Rolling Thunder on Jul 18, 2009 18:42:39 GMT -5
God help GW if that should happen, for I expect a large explosion to occur in the locality of Texas, and from this, a giant, fiery figure, twenty-foot high and burning hotter than the stars with her fury.
This, shall be called Melissia.
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Post by Willem on Jul 18, 2009 20:30:37 GMT -5
i will conver my chem canon to shoot water so im not woried
we nead yammot to draw an ilastration of wat this would look like
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Post by Ignatius on Jul 18, 2009 22:59:58 GMT -5
..Not really, I think we can figure this one out in our heads. Besides, ymmot already has a full slate it seems.
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Post by Makarova (M.I.A) on Jul 19, 2009 3:13:57 GMT -5
One thing I'd really like to see in the new 'Nid codex is the actual endless swarm that a Tyranid army is supposed to be. Cheaper Gaunts, but without access to the more powerful upgrades (such as toxin sacs), and have the lot Recycle, in all games, all the time. There are more Gaunts than ammunition in the galaxy, 'nuff said.
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Post by scythexv8 on Jul 19, 2009 3:59:13 GMT -5
Good point, though I'm not sure how this would balance out(Nids are supposed to be a tough army to go against, I admit lack of experience). Perhaps more expensive heavies?
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Post by halosnachtariff on Jul 19, 2009 6:48:40 GMT -5
As a 'nid player the things I don't really feel we need a new 'dex, at least not until Necrons/DE/SoB etc. have had one.
Although plastic Gargoyles would be nice, the metal ones keep snapping off their stands and they're a pain to stick back together...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2009 17:51:36 GMT -5
When 'nids get a new 'dex, this is the direction I think it should go in:
1. Cheaper gaunts/gants with minimal upgrades. Also, they should have the option of forming two Gaunt/Gant groups into a megaswarm, with added benefits like lowering enemy morale (There's too many of them!) and maybe some light vehicle killing powers ('cause that many bugs crawling over a Sentinel or Ork Trukk is bound to do something).
2. More expensive elites/heavies. 'nids are a race of extremes- extremely cheap, weak infantry, and extremely expensive, powerful Elites and Heavy choices. They should be more representative of this.
3. Give the Zoanthrope some love. I freaking' love this model and it's concept, but a lot of its powers seem really underwelming for what's supposed to be a super-elite psyker capable of taking on Eldar and winning.
4. Get rid of Gargoyles or give them a freaking box set.
5. Synapse: If a unit of Gaunts/Gants is found to be outside Synapse range at the beginning of the Tyranid player's movement phase, roll a D6 for each unit out of Synapse range. 1-3, they fight amongst themselves. Roll another D6, that many Gaunts must take an armor save or be removed. 4-6, confusion reigns and the Gaunts mill about, lost without the connection to the Hive Mind. They may not move, shoot, or assault. If assaulted, they fight at I2.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2009 0:05:55 GMT -5
When 'nids get a new 'dex, this is the direction I think it should go in: 1. Cheaper gaunts/gants with minimal upgrades. Also, they should have the option of forming two Gaunt/Gant groups into a megaswarm, with added benefits like lowering enemy morale (There's too many of them!) and maybe some light vehicle killing powers ('cause that many bugs crawling over a Sentinel or Ork Trukk is bound to do something). 2. More expensive elites/heavies. 'nids are a race of extremes- extremely cheap, weak infantry, and extremely expensive, powerful Elites and Heavy choices. They should be more representative of this. 3. Give the Zoanthrope some love. I freaking' love this model and it's concept, but a lot of its powers seem really underwelming for what's supposed to be a super-elite psyker capable of taking on Eldar and winning. 4. Get rid of Gargoyles or give them a freaking box set. 5. Synapse: If a unit of Gaunts/Gants is found to be outside Synapse range at the beginning of the Tyranid player's movement phase, roll a D6 for each unit out of Synapse range. 1-3, they fight amongst themselves. Roll another D6, that many Gaunts must take an armor save or be removed. 4-6, confusion reigns and the Gaunts mill about, lost without the connection to the Hive Mind. They may not move, shoot, or assault. If assaulted, they fight at I2. i dont agree with you here on making Elites more expensive, the Warrior is one of the mainstay units, making it more expensive is not a good idea, with that in mind i also like how the Gaunts are too. Although i FULLY AGREE with you on making gargoyles plastic, or take them away. i have yet to find anyone who actually has the gargoyles.....plastic i say!!! and no, Tyranids dont need to codex. DR and Necrons the two ones coming up i suppose, but do you need them? or want them? from feedback where i live, its not that DE and Necrons need a new one, its that everyone wants to see a new one, with new codexes comes new models. -Panzer |
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Post by Melissia on Jul 20, 2009 0:08:14 GMT -5
Sure, all the third edition codices need an updated codex. While I can play my Sisters competatively witht eh current codex, there's no variety and a good number of units are simply unfit for competative play... or friendly play for that matter, as they're just so bad. The models I'm using were produced back in second edition-- third edition Sisters didn't GET a new model range.
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Post by WestRider on Jul 20, 2009 2:05:14 GMT -5
Nids are my second favorite Army (at least until we get a new CSM Dex), and I've got to agree with the general consensus, they're pretty much fine as is.
The cheap Endless Gaunts can already be done: Any Gaunt Brood of less than 8 Points per Model can buy Without Number, and recycle endlessly. I'd like to see that updated so it works like Send in the Next Wave, and I can pull them whenever I want, but it more or less works as is.
Changes I'd like to see:
- Slightly cheaper Gaunts, and Warriors becoming either Cheaper or Tougher. Don't need new Models, but a Sprue Recut wouldn't hurt for the Warriors.
- Mutable Gargoyles and Raveners. Plastic Models for both of these would be nice as well.
- Some decent ranged Anti-Tank. Not great, but perhaps on par with how the Venom Cannon was in 4th Ed. Warp Blast 'Thropes getting BS4, AP1, or 24" Range would help, too.
- Cooler Psychic Powers would definitely be nice. In particular, I'd like to see some more effective Psychic Defense Options.
- If they are going to stick a Gargantuan Creature in there, forget the Trygon, I want a Barbed Hierodule.
All that said, Dark Eldar, Necrons, Inquisition, Tau, and Chaos Marines all need a re-Write far more than the Nids do.
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Post by Melissia on Jul 20, 2009 8:53:49 GMT -5
Pfeh, screw the Inquisition, the Sisters and Grey Knights need a rewrite-- the Inquisition's just there for the ride because SOMEONE happened to be far too into the Inquisitor specialist game  |
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Post by John_Galt (M.I.A) on Jul 20, 2009 8:55:42 GMT -5
SoB need plastics!
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Post by Ogryn Crazy! on Jul 20, 2009 13:22:43 GMT -5
Hes right, That was the only thing that stopped me from collecting them when they first came out, as I hated painting metal. |
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Post by ElegaicRequiem on Jul 20, 2009 14:47:34 GMT -5
Only past tense? I still hate painting metal. I hate gluing metal. I hate holding/moving metal minis. They're obscenely heavy compared to plastic and resin -- grab 70 metal dudes and their vehicles, and you'll quickly agree that it's not cool to lug that around. I hate everything about them. There is no good reason why an established line of minis should NOT have its troops, at least, in plastic.
End Chapter One of: Ranting with Requiem
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